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Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » za maart 11, 2017 6:09 pm

Hallo fototje moet nog komen tot m'n W124 weer rijdt !!

Mijn 300TE (automaat uit ,86) uit de stalling willen halen...... dus niet . Jankt heel fanatiek rond .. maar geen slag geen plof niets nada. Uiteindelijk naar huis gesleept om eens alles nader te bekijken.
Dacht eerst de ontsteking....doch prima vonk. Dus dan de benzine.
Aansluiting naar de spinnekop los..... komt een prachtige straal uit.
Retour naar de tank ook prachtige straal. Dus de 6x injectie leidingen los op de spinnekop (fuelrelais kort gesloten) niets nada (wel bij de start injector, wat klopt)
Blijkt er op de spinnekop nog een druk regellaar te zitten die electrich wordt aangestuurd (zie foto dat zwarte blokje).
Heeft iemand hier ervaring mee ?
Als ik op de gaatjes lucht zet krijg ik er niets doorheen . Hoe kan dat.
Dat ding kost op Ebay zo'n 150 euries. Ben dus een beetje terughoudend om dat gelijk te vervangen zonder overtuigende fout check.
Wie heeft hier meer mee gespeeld ??
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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » za maart 11, 2017 7:33 pm

Hallo Bob dat is de EHA Electro hydralic actuator inderdaad de brandstof druk regelaar.
je ben de zoveelste al waarvan ik lees dat de EHA problemen geeft NA! de winterstalling.

Er zitten minuscuul dunne darmpjes in deze regelaar...het zou dus kunnen dat deze darmpjes verharsen/vervuilen tijdens de stilstand .

het kan natuurlijk ook zijn dat er een storing in de aansturing zit.

misschien kun je ze inspuiten met een injector reiniger oid...nieuw zijn ze erg duur maar 2e hands zijn ze nog wel te vinden.

ze zijn ook nog af te stellen rijker/armer....of dat jou probleem oplost weet ik niet daarvoor raad ik het ook af
Als je hem demonteert let dan op de 2 kleine/groene O ringetjes die er tussen zitten...die raak je zo kwijt.

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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » zo maart 12, 2017 12:00 am

Dank Ron voor je reactie, je kunt het onderdaad niet uit elkaar halen, alleen maar slopen.
Heb er wel een principe tekening van omtrent de werking.
Heb hem wel aan de praat gekregen na heeel lang starten (met een 100 Amp/u accu parrallel).
Maar daarna opnieuw weer hetzelfde.
Met mijn W123 230TE getest. Ook de injectie leidingen los gehaald, maar daar vloeide rijkelijk brandstof uit de aansluitingen. Mogelijkmoet ik er toch (op de gok) een andere bestellen ?
Zal hem morgen nog eens demonteren en proberen in de remmenreiniger te zetten vooe een tijdje. Wie weet.

Ik laat het je weten.
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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » ma apr 03, 2017 8:27 pm

Eindelijk mijn nieuwe EHA unit ontvangen. Heb de fout gemaak voor een van E-bay USA. Maar nu toch ontvangen.
Gemonteerd en ja hoor starten . Is altijd de vraag of dat werkelijk het probleen was.
Ondertussen nogal war info gevonden op het net. Voor het afstellen de de youtupe site ,, Mercedes flat acceleration ,,.
Ben weer een stuk wijzer !

Zijn er toevoegingen (..voor de volgende winterstop) die mogelijk dicht groeien, verstoppingen tegen gaan ?

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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » di apr 04, 2017 1:14 pm

Blijk bij koude start welliswaar in een keer goed te starten, maar vervolgens bij wegrijden te stokke en te bokke. Na weg rijden (heeel voorzichter gas), is het vrijwel direct over. In vroegere dagen zou je de choke een tikkie uit trekken.
Heb de spanning op de koudestart injector gemeten en dat is ok.
Staat dus een fractie te arm. Blijkbaar de EHA regelaar een fractie rijker zetten ??. Ben benieuwd ??

Wordt vervolgd !!

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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » wo apr 05, 2017 3:08 pm

Gisteren de EHA even eraf en de imbus instelling 1/8 slag rechtom (rijker mengsel).
Vanmorgen , koude start prima (was al goed) maar bij weg rijden nu perfect !!
Geen bokken en inhouden, gewoon gelijk goed oppakken. Ben uiterst tervreden :clap:

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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » wo apr 05, 2017 3:50 pm

Dat is mooi Bob...hou ons op de hoogte hoe de auto rijdt de komende tijd...heb je de duty cycle (lucht/brandstofverhouding) al nagemeten ?

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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » wo apr 05, 2017 4:57 pm

Hallo Ron, dat heb ik nog niet gedaan. Maar wel leuk om te meten. Moet dan we een aftak plug maken om te meten.
Heb geen Bosch meet intrument, maar wel een scoop. Lijkt een beetje overkil, of heb jij een betere methode ?

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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » wo apr 05, 2017 6:43 pm

Met de multimeter op stand 0.20v even het voltage meten op de X11 connector in pin 2 en 3.
Met volledig warme motor moet je het voltage zien pendelen (lambda) bv tussen 5a6 volt (te arm) of 7a8volt (te rijk).
Er van uit gaan dat je een motor hebt met Lambda en Kat...moet je hem proberen af te stellen tussen 6 en 7 volt

Afstellen doe je met een 3mm inbus door het gat in het lmm huis links (armer) rechts (rijker)
Doe dit wel heel voorzichtig...steeds met maar een kwart slag..met tussenpozen van 10 SEC.
begin hier maar eens mee...en kijk eerst maar eens waar hij nu op staat.
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Re: Benzine problemen

Berichtdoor bob » wo apr 05, 2017 6:55 pm

Afstellen doe je met een 3mm inbus door het gat in het lmm huis links (armer) rechts (rijker)

Het gat in "het lmm" , is het luchtfilter huis ? , welke uit komt in het midden op spinnekop ?
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