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Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » vr maart 28, 2014 5:58 pm

Hallo iedereen,
Wat is volgens jullie ervaring de beste diesel motor in een W124 ?
Als beste bedoel ik de sterkste, meest betrouwbare motor die het meeste km aankan
Is een turbo veel minder betrouwbaar ?
Een multiklepper minder dan een gewone ?
300 of 250 ?
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor DJS » vr maart 28, 2014 6:05 pm

Ik zou zeggen de OM601,OM602 en OM603. Met turbo kunnen de 2.5 en 3.0 net zo veel kilometers verslinden als zonder, met turbo zijn ze echter wel gevoeliger voor een goede eigenaar. De turboloze dualkleppers zijn het meest fool proof zou je kunnen zeggen. ;)
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » vr maart 28, 2014 6:15 pm

Zijn de multikleppers dan minder robuust dan de dualkleppers ?
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor DJS » vr maart 28, 2014 6:22 pm

De multikleppers zijn ook zeker zeer robuust en kunnen ook zeker hoge kilometers maken, ze staan er alleen wel minder om bekend om die astronomische kilometerstanden te halen dan de oude dualkleppers. Als je iets wilt wat minimaal 8 ton mee kan, zou ik zeker een oude dualklepper nemen.
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor GekkeHenkie » vr maart 28, 2014 7:17 pm

En het verbruik van een dual is iets lager dan van een multieklepper.

Laat je niet afschrikken door hohe km standen. Maar dan wel het liefst met een onderhoudsboekje erbij
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Mafkees » vr maart 28, 2014 7:27 pm

De beste diesel is ; de beste onderhouden diesel. Alle diesel motoren uit een W124 zijn eigenlijk zeer goed. Hoe meer erop zit hoe meer er kapot kan.
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Hulzie » vr maart 28, 2014 7:41 pm

Gewone 300D is goed, had er nooit geen klachten over, 8 ton gedraait had ie toen ik um weg deed, en heb nu een Turbo die 1.433.xxx gelopen heeft, gebruikt geen olie, lekt niet start goed, maar ik ben een rustige rijder, heb specifiek die gekocht opdat er echt alles op en aan zat, en van goede komaf was, en boekjes erbij heb, inmiddels heb ik er 40.000 in gereden en alleen aan kostten een accu gehad. Wel is het blok in 94 gereviseerd.
S 430 V8 automaat.


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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » vr maart 28, 2014 8:30 pm

Hoeveel km heeft je auto gereden met dezelfde turbo ?
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Hulzie » vr maart 28, 2014 9:52 pm

Zover ik kan zien zit de eerste er nog in, en ik ben volgens RDW 2e eigenaar, orinigeel kenteken, ned. auto.
S 430 V8 automaat.


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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Marius28 » zo maart 30, 2014 10:47 am

Er rijden nog steeds W124 diesels met meer dan een miljoen km rond. Dan zijn zowel 200, 250, 300 en 250- en 300-multikleppers en turbo's van 250 en 300. Meestal zijn de turbo's dan eenmaal vervangen. Eigenlijk kun je stellen, hoe eenvoudiger de motor hoe minder er stuk gaat. De 250 en 300 2-kleps zijn wat dat betreft de koplopers in degelijkheid.
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » do apr 03, 2014 8:21 am

Ik heb besloten voor een 300 turbo te gaan :-)
Een 1989 of een 1990
Moet full options zijn en in perfekte staat
Mag wat geld kosten ;-)
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Blauweaaf » do apr 03, 2014 9:27 am

Mooi bescheiden wensenlijstje!!

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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Hsghor » do apr 03, 2014 12:12 pm

300 TDT: bijna 365.000 gelopen, geen enkel probleem. en natuurlijk wel alle beurten op tijd gehad is een voorwaarde om het zo te houden.
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Youpy » do apr 03, 2014 4:39 pm

Echt full options?
Dan kun je lang zoeken! :text-lol:
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » vr apr 04, 2014 12:39 pm

Met full optiions bedoel ik :
- airco
- cruise control
- leder
- regelbare stuurkolom
- indien een break 7 zit
- open dak
- ABS
- ASR
Sommige van die opties kunnen ook later ingebouwd worden ...
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor JosW124 » vr apr 04, 2014 1:21 pm

Eén van de mijne, 1991 250TD standaard motoruitvoering, bijna een 1/2 miljoen, no trouble at all. Originele motor.

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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Herman280TE » vr apr 04, 2014 4:57 pm

Hoi Eric,

Zoiets bedoel je? http://www.klaasdepoel.com/verkoop/W124 ... z7WQMYqZ3Q ;-)

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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » vr apr 04, 2014 7:12 pm

Is inderdaad een prachtauto maar ik vind een fase 2 mooier ...
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor Gullwing » vr apr 04, 2014 9:11 pm

De bepalende faktor of de auto een hoge kilometerstand haalt is de eigenaar.
Is dat het type alleen tanken en verder nooit ergens naar kijken, beurten overslaan want
olie bijvullen moet ook kunnen, dan kun je het beste een twee klepper( per cylinder) kopen.

Multikleppers rijden wat soepeler en verbruiken minder omdat de motor door betere in en uitlaat
techniek iets meer rendement heeft.

Top of the line zijn turbodiesels met de 300 turbomotor OM 603 als kers op de taart.
Deze motoren hebben een serie koppakkingen gehad die problemen gaf.
Zelfs wanneer de koppakking al een keer vervangen is kan die er nog een keer uitvliegen.
Elring levert nu een foolproof koppakking, hou er rekening mee dat vervangen 500-800
euro kost.

Een turbodiesel in de handen van een eigenaar die ook nog wat gevoel voor techniek heeft
kan zeker zoveel kms halen als een gewone diesel. Koeling is het zwakke punt bij turbo's.

Multikleppers waar stevig mee doorgereden is zullen bij 400.000 km aan een koprevisie toe zijn.
Dat tikt bij een 24 klepper aardig aan, reken maar op 2000 euro. Kan best wat meer worden.
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Re: Beste Diesel ?

Berichtdoor MacFever » ma apr 07, 2014 9:29 am

Welke series van de OM603 turbo hebben problemen gehad met de koppakking ?
Hebben de 250 turbodiesels daar ook last van ?
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