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De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk : Andere dingen - 3

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De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Mafkees » ma maart 14, 2011 5:34 pm

Gewoon regelmatig vervangen die filters, kost de kop ook niet. (bv; elk jaar)
Heb je nog geluk dat je niet op de steile heling bij Ulm of Stuttgart stond.
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Gombal » ma maart 14, 2011 5:54 pm

Weet niet of je ooit je reservelampje hebt zien branden?
Of rijd je hem niet zo ver leeg, zit namelijk nog een filter in je tank en die gaan bij diesels ook dichtzitten na zoveel jaren.
Met dezelfde zwarte shit als in je voorfiltertje. (zie mijn logboek)
Filter in je tank is niet duur, 19 euro bij de dealer, maar verwisselen is een pest werk.
Mocht je daar geen last van hebben dan heb je geluk ;)
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » ma maart 14, 2011 9:37 pm

:D Herman....spaar jij die voorfilters of zo??

Toen de auto bij Breda begon te sputteren zat er nog tussen een 1/4-1/2 tank diesel in. Wel in Bregenzerwald bergie op-bergie af gereden met 1/4 tank, maar kan dat ervoor gezorgd hebben dat er meer smurrie door het tankfilter is gegaan en daardoor het voorfilter en brandstoffilter vervuild/haast verstopt heeft?
Geen idee of dit een oorzaak kan zijn.

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mag er nu een luchtbel zitten in het net vervangen schone voorfilter? Heeft een W124 motor een handmatige of automatische ontluchting voor zo'n luchtbel?
Hoe krijg je zo'n luchtbel eruit?
Kan je zo'n voorfilter zelf onderweg vervangen? Als de motor uit staat, loopt er dan diesel uit de aanvoerslang (vanuit de tank). Mocht je dit zelf kunnen doen, dan neem ik zo'n filtertje mee in mijn standaard uitrusting. Om ook de heuvels rond Ulm en Stuttgart te kunnen nemen......neen zonder gekheid, lijkt me geen overbodig reserve-onderdeel.

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » ma maart 14, 2011 9:57 pm

:D Arjen,

' zie mijn logboek'.......???.......kan je me uitleggen hoe ik daar in kan komen?

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Gombal » ma maart 14, 2011 10:26 pm

Je W124 is zelfontluchtend dus dat is makkelijk, heb zelf alles leeg gehad, daarna een minuut of 2 starten met wat tussenpozen en dan komt hij weer tot leven ;)
Hier wat ik bedoelde met logboek:

In mijn voorfiltertje zit nog steeds een luchtbel, al sinds vorig jaar zomer en dat maakt niets uit, is het hoogste punt en dat verdwijnt daar dus gewoon niet.Gaat waarschijnlijk pas weg als mijn voorfilter een eind dicht gaat zitten waardoor dan de diesel wat hoger door het filtertje gaat.

Filtertje kan je zo vervangen, komt wel wat diesel uit maar zolang je tank niet tot zijn strot vol zit als je hem wisselt zal het wel meevallen. Bovendien als je het slim doet door eerst de slangenklemmen op te lossen en dan in 1 beweging het oude filter eruit en je de slang omhoog houden valt het wel mee. Zonder morsen gaat niet, wel zonder zondvloed.

Als je 1 keer je tankfilter vervangt en je tank meteen spoelt zal je er voorlopig geen last van hebben maar voor die 1,5 of 2 euro hoef je het niet te laten om er eentje reserve bij te hebben.
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

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Herman, olie afgetapt?
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » zo maart 20, 2011 10:58 am

Goedemorgen forumleden,

Gisteren heerlijk gereden van R'dam naar Harderwijk om een pondje vette gerookte paling te kopen. Met vervangen verse filters ging ik op pad. Benieuwd of het euvel verholpen was. En..........gelukkig geen last meer gehad!
Arjen en Herman D250.......jullie informatie uit logboek/postings waardeer ik erg. Levert voor mij veel informatie op, maar ook vragen. Zoals:
Is het niet beter om bij de Benzen W124 van na 1984 tot verder de dieseltank standaard (als onderhoud) te reinigen. Ben toch wel geschrokken van de drap op het tankfilter en het smerige goedje in dat afwasteiltje!
Ben zelf geen sleutelaar en zou uit zorggevoelens dit karweitje wel door een kundig W124 garage uit willen laten voeren. Wat kost zo'n klus? Iemand een idee wie zo'n klus goed kan uitvoeren?

Ga even de Benz wat oppoetsen......heerlijk weertje ervoor,

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo maart 20, 2011 12:15 pm

Je zou het preventief kunnen (laten) doen maar het is natuurlijk ook zo, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Wat het kost om te laten doen weet ik niet, ben gelukkig gezegend met 2 rechterhanden en het motto: ik kan alles totdat ik het geprobeerd heb. (Uiteraard met een gezonde dosis inschattingsvermogen, er zijn dingen waar ik ook niet aan begin vanwege geen kennis ervan of prijstechnisch)
Aftappen kostte bij mij het langst ondanks dat er niet gek veel meer in de tank zat.
Als je de juiste dopmaat hebt (47 of iets dergelijks was het, in ieder geval maat groot dus) hoef je je tank er niet uit te halen om het filter te wisselen maar wil je hem goed spoelen is het wel handig als hij eruit is want dan kan je lekker even schuden met het geheel.
Denk dat het zo een uurtje of 2 werk is dus die kosten heb je zowieso.
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Pena » zo maart 20, 2011 12:21 pm

Hoi Q,

Dat ziet er lekker uit ;) .
Mijn grootste probleem was, dat de vorige eigenaar er in de laatste 2 jaar slechts 50km mee gereden had. Hier een foto van de vlotter.

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Het is best een klus om de tank er uit te halen, maar eigenlijk de enige manier.
Hier nog een plaatje van de slang direct uit de tank (direct geschroefd aan het tankfilter).
Deze slang was aan de binnenkant bekleed met 1 dikke mm van die zwarte rommel. Ook maar een nieuwe opgezet. Leiding naar voren (van metaal) heb ik maar doorgeblazen. kwam ook nog veel bagger uit. Moet zeggen dat ik zelfs nu nog wel eens een vuilklontje heb in mijn voorfilter (in de tank zitten gewoon veel hoekjes en randjes).

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » di maart 22, 2011 9:50 pm

Herman & Arjen,

snap even de uitleg niet........zit die slang aan het tankfilter?
Waar dan precies? Of begrijp ik jullie nu verkeerd?
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Pena » di maart 22, 2011 9:57 pm

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » wo maart 23, 2011 8:09 am

Morgeu Herman 250D,

Ik snap 'm! Dit weekeinde komt ze op de brug te staan bij een garage.
Kruip ik er even onder om te zien hoe die slang van de tank wegloopt en (waarschijnlijk) ergens bij de loop naar voren over gaat in een metalen leiding.

Tank zit nu vol, dus dat tankfilter ga ik zeker nog op een later moment laten vervangen.

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » za maart 26, 2011 2:50 pm

:D Vandaag haar onderkantje mogen bewonderen! En die zag er heel goed uit. Geen sporen van roest of wat dan ook te zien.
Ook de tankfilter + rubberslang gevonden. Gelijk afspraak gemaakt om beiden te vervangen.
Wel heb ik weer een paar vragen:
- welke motorolie moet er nu in? 10W40 (halfsynthetisch/half mineraal of iets anders) of 15W40 (mineraal of iets anders). Inmiddels ben ik de weg kwijt in het olierijkdom
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- wie heeft ervaring met het behandelen van de binnenkant van de kokerbalken (preventief) met tektyl of iets dergelijks en kan er iets over vertellen of heeft een goed adres?

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Merceders200D » za maart 26, 2011 9:22 pm

Kroon olie ''emperol 10 w 40'' half syntheet is goed te doen, nu 3000 km verder zonder problemen.

Voor je koker balken zou ik er bussen ML witte spuitbussen injanken, ideaal vanwege het slangetje dat je erbij geleverd krijgt.
Bij die van mij is dat met de restauratie ook gedaan.
Misschien ga ik ooit nog eens de Mike Sanders manier doen, voorlopig hoef ik mijn geen zorgen te maken ;)

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » ma maart 28, 2011 8:04 pm

:D Hoi Carel en andere forumleden,

Ja, ik heb er zaterdag zelf ook 10W40 half-synthetisch erin laten gooien.
Liefje rijdt nu nog steeds zonder gekreun en gekraak rond.

Schiedam-ster vertelde me echter dat er orgineel in een W124, oliesoort 15W40 100% Mineraal in moet........Heuuuuu, heb zelf echt geen verstand van olie voor W124' ers.
Zal ik het maar snel gaan vervangen????
Sinds Schiedam-sters het tegen me vertelde heb ik pijn in mijn buik met alle gevolgen vandien. Het leek wel o :!: ie !! :D

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Mafkees » ma maart 28, 2011 8:16 pm

10 w 40 is helemaal perfect. Vroeger in die tijd was er alleen maar 15 w 40 :laugh:
Lekker 10.000 km laten zitten dat spul.
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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » di maart 29, 2011 5:04 pm

Zie dat er al een flinke discussie over de oliesoorten heeft plaatsgevonden:


viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2410

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » vr apr 29, 2011 9:53 pm

Morgen wordt het tankfilter + slang vervangen. Zal er een foto van maken en in dit bericht plaatsen. Ben benieuwd.

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Re: De avonturen van Qbuik's Benz in Bregenzerwald-Oostenrijk

Berichtdoor Qbuik » zo mei 01, 2011 7:17 pm

Zo.......vervangen is ie.......het oude tankfilter er in en het oude eruit. Het viel me echt mee. De eerdere foto's van tankfilters deden me vrezen dat die in mijn Benz ook wel eens ernstig vervuild zou zijn. Maar bekijk de foto's eens. Eingenlijk niks aan de hand.
Desondanks de nieuwe erin gezet. Wel kwam er aardig wat bezinksel met de diesel mee.
Als je zo'n stukje aanraakte viel het als een soort olie-achtig zand uit elkaar.

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