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Berichtdoor 300TDT » zo sep 03, 2017 7:41 pm

Hallo na een leuk dagje koblenz heb ik op terug weg klein stukje 210 aangetikt en toen merkte ik vermogenverlies uit reactie terug laten zakken tot 100 en toen weer gas erop maar helaas. Overige 80km rustig na huis kunnen rijden.
Bij stilstand lijkt het of hij op 3 poten loopt.
Iemand idee?
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Berichtdoor Erik 300 TDTurbo » zo sep 03, 2017 8:57 pm

Vermoedelijk bobine kapot als motor wel blijft draaien maar heel onregelmatig klinkt.
Er zitten drie bobines onder deksel in kop motor, iedere bobine zorgt voor ontsteking van 2 cilinders, je hebt dus waarschijnlijk een viercilinder ipv een zescilinder :dry:
Niet mee blijven rijden, niet goed voor motor en al helemaal niet voor je katalysator.
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Re: houd flink in 320 vermogenverlies

Berichtdoor 300TDT » zo sep 03, 2017 9:35 pm

Kijk dit wist ik niet 3 bobines.. Morgen na mijn werk zal ik er na kijken en zal inderdaad ook niet meer mee rijden. Morgen met de 190er na werk.
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Berichtdoor 300TDT » ma sep 04, 2017 7:33 am

Vind van niet.. Top ligt hoger en draaide nog geen 5000 toeren... Moet hij best tegen kunnen lijkt mij ongeacht de leeftijd is toch een frisse motor met 216.000km.

Was nog nooit harder gegaan als 180km/u.. En als je al 400km heb gereden met een snelheid van 110km/u mag je het gas wel eens door trappen op een 5 baans weg op de linkerbaan 8-) Bijna alle duitsers trappen door, zal zeker ook met deze Benz vroeger zijn gebeurd.

Ik ga straks meten welke bobine en vervangen gelijk poetsen en dan weer rusten komt regen aan :laugh:
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Berichtdoor Erik 300 TDTurbo » ma sep 04, 2017 8:57 am

Mee eens, ook oudere auto's mogen mits goed warm best eens goed op staart getrapt worden. Is zelfs goed om dat af en toe te doen, brand eea goed schoon.
Na vakantiereis met caravan aan de haak naar Oostenrijk rijdt mijn 280TE ook beter/feller. Heeft af en toe berg opwaarts er flink aan moeten trekken maar kon de 100 kmh op grote weg altijd aanhouden, 5 traps automaat gaat dan naar 3 en snort met ong 4500tpm omhoog 8-)
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Berichtdoor Marcellus » ma sep 04, 2017 12:52 pm

Ik had dit ook met mijn auto (ook M104 motor). Het kan inderdaad één van de drie bobines zijn, of een los contact in een stekkertje dat op de bobines zit. Zie onderstaande post van mij. Op de tweede foto zie je de bobines met de stekkertjes. Ik denk dat bij jou de boosdoener niet een stekkertje maar een bobine is. Stekkertje kan defect raken bij bougies verwisselen doordat er dan aan getrokken word:

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Berichtdoor Arpad » wo sep 06, 2017 9:51 pm

Staat hij niet op noodbedrijf, limp-home-mode.
Stationair is dan ook 1500 toeren, en vermogen is dan een stuk lager.
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Berichtdoor 300TDT » do sep 07, 2017 6:29 am

1 bobine kapot, compressie gemeten cilinder 1 en 2 doen niks meer.. bougie van cilinder 1 stukje vanaf gebroken.
Laagje olie op de beide zuiger, de kop gaat eraf , waarschijnlijk koppakking kapot. Toch te lang door gereden met kapotte bobine.

Hopelijk heeft hij dat stukje van de bougie na buiten geblazen en anders kans op meer schade, ik zal het gaan horen van de garage voor mij geen klus om het zelf te gaan doen.
Hopelijk kan ik binnen paar weken weer genieten als het zonnetje het nog toe laat in het na jaar.. Anders gelijk op stalling.
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Berichtdoor Erik 300 TDTurbo » do sep 07, 2017 9:46 am

Ai das goed mis :ohmy:
Welke bobine was kapot?
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Berichtdoor 300TDT » za okt 07, 2017 4:13 pm

de eerste bobine. 2 kleppen waren afgebroken, maar geen schade voor de rest. Kop is gevlakt en nieuwe kleppen in gekomen.
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Berichtdoor Bart_vg » ma okt 09, 2017 3:44 pm

Kan iemand met meer verstand mij eens uitleggen hoe kleppen, bougies en pakking kapot gaan/breken door rijden met een kapotte bobine? :?
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