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Isolatiemateriaal motorkap : Carrosserie & Exterieur - 3

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Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Gombal » ma aug 16, 2010 8:39 pm

Nee nog niet, ga het van de week in ieder geval halen maar moet eerst even werken en overwerken, vakantietijd op het werk :(
Zal als het er in zit ook even mijn bevindingen qua geluid melden hoewel ik denk dat het bij minder verschil zal zijn, de oude zit er nog in maar vooral, ik heb alleen maar lage tonen van mijn diesel en geen hoge tonen maar ik hoop dat het wel wat uitmaakt.
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor MB260E » di aug 17, 2010 9:44 am

Overigens staat er zelfs op de geluidsisolatiematten van de Gamma ( 2 stuks voor 10 euro) dat het geschikt is voor onder je motorkap met daarbij een getekende afbeelding op de verpakking .

Dit dus even voor de mensen die nog twijfelen of het spul daarvoor wel geschikt is .
Het anwoord is dus ja.

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Wim » zo aug 22, 2010 6:19 pm

2 dagen geleden zag de bijdragen van het onderwerp over het Isolatiemateriaal van de motorkap.
Dat is iets voor mij dacht ik want onder de kap van mijn 200TD was de mat al jaren geleden vergaan.
Er resteerde misschien nog maar 20%, de rest was letterlijk en ook figuurlijk tot stof wedergekeerd er in alle richtingen weggewaaid !
Direct naar de Gamma gereden en een setje meegenomen. Ik kon kiezen tussen 2 types matten ( 1 zonder een lijmlaag -9.95 euro-en 1 met een lijmlaag-13.95 euro-), ik koos voor de laatste want met een losse tube lijm zal je wel hetzelfde kwijt zijn....
De montage was zeer eenvoudig,(wel even precies de afmetingen bepalen om het netjes te maken)
De oude lijmlagen heb ik allemaal weggehaald en daarna grondig gereinigd.
Ik kwam er echter ook achter dat ik morgen nog een setje moet halen.........zie foto
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo aug 22, 2010 6:55 pm

Dat bevestigd dan ook meteen mijn vermoeden, heb dus 2 m2 nodig, ziet er netjes uit zo.
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Paul-P » do sep 16, 2010 10:41 pm

Ik heb die van TE taxi teile berlin gekocht, had toch al een flinke boodschappenlijst bij TE dus dan dit er gelijk maar bij gedaan,

nee geen metaalfolie er op,

binnen kort foto

Waar kan ik het beste mee vast plakken?
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor nik » vr sep 17, 2010 10:13 am

Hallo,

Ik heb het gedaan met Bizon lijm uit z'n verf blik. Isolatie in smeren en de kap zelf insmeren. 2 tellen laten indrogen en je kunt het er zo opplakken.

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Syn.Ther. » zo sep 26, 2010 3:39 pm

bizon lijm kan idd, al werkt de spuitlijm voor interieuren van 3m ook uitstekend, gebruik het ook voor veel isolatie in oldtimers, houdt goed en makkelijk in gebruik. te koop bij autmaterialen zaken
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Zoert » ma okt 18, 2010 7:59 pm

Van dat gamma spul hoef je niet bang te zijn dat het vlam vat.
Als het goed is staat er op de verpakking zelfdovend.
Ik heb eens een oude bestelbus (daf 400 meubelbak) in het motorruim beplakt.
Ook vlak achter het uitlaatspruitstuk en vlak bij de turbo en nooit problemen gehad, zelfs niet in zuid frankrijk bij 30+ graden.
En wat een verschil met origineel. Nu is zo'n Benz voor toentertijd al fluisterstil, helemaal de diesels. Mede dankzij antidreun platen en hele dikke schuimplaten onder de vloermatten.
Pak een ander merk diesel van 25 jaar terug en je wordt horendol van de t*ring herrie die zo'n ding van binnen maakt...
Bij mij gaat er dus ook gewoon Hornbach spul in. (heb een hekel aan gamma, karwei en praxis)
Die kap is 9 van de 10 keer toch dicht en dan ziet niemand het verschil.
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor tangieres » za nov 13, 2010 9:53 am

Volgens mij opletten met zomaar eender welk issolatiemateriaal onder de motorkap te monteren,is het wel brandvrij ivm het opnemen van oliehoudende dampen die voortkomen van de motor, beter een mat bestellen die hiervoor geschikt is , deze kost ongeveer 45 euro , dat is wat ik ervoor betaald heb .
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor 86er W124 » ma nov 15, 2010 11:25 am

Even een tip.

Mocht je helemaal niet met computers overweg kunnen ( zoals ikke)

Kun je bestanden makkelijk verkleinen in windows XP met paint.

Bestand openen, optie oprekken hellen 2 x 25% ingeven en onder andere naam opslaan.
klaar.

Het percentage kun je natuurlijk varieeren. of gewoon de bewerking herhalen.

Greetz.

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Gombal » ma nov 15, 2010 1:09 pm

Eigenlijk een beetje off topic maar omdat meer mensen er moeite mee hebben even het onderstaande:

Foto's worden sinds kort automatisch verkleind naar 600 pixels, als je er dan op klikt krijg je de originele grootte te zien. Maximale grootte qua MB's is 2 MB.
Gebruik zelf Prish Resizer 32bit (), als je 64 bit Windows draait moet je de 64 bit versie hebben natuurlijk. Lijkt erg op onderstaande tool, vandaar.
Als je echter nog Windows XP draait is dit een nog makkelijker optie, Image Resizer van Microsoft zelf, als je dit geinstalleerd hebt kun je gewoon rechtsklikken in je verkenner op een foto en aangeven wat voor maat en voila, gefikst.
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor dani1983 » wo nov 17, 2010 11:29 am

Heeft iemand inmiddels het verschil tussen Gamma isolatie en MB-isolatie kunnen vergelijken?
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Hans » wo nov 17, 2010 1:19 pm

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor saw124 » vr dec 17, 2010 11:24 am

De originele isolatie onder de kap zit toch niet gelijmd maar vastgeklikt oid? En als je het dichtplakt met spul van gamma oid krijg je dan geen problemen met roest? Binnen warm, buiten koud, geen ventilatie tussen isolatie en kap, condensvorming...roest als resultaat?

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor nik » vr dec 17, 2010 8:57 pm

Beste Sava,

Mijn vader heeft laatst zijn verweerde isolatie mat onder de motorkap verwijderd,
deze zat niet vast geklikt o.i.d, maar gewoon over het gehele oppervlak verlijmt.

En naar 24 jaar nog nergens geen spoortje van roest o.i.d, nu zit er een gamma isolatie onder.
Ik zelf heb met mijn eigen 300D alweer 40dkm gereden met dezefde gamma isolatie.

Ik heb ook nog een W123 230E, hier zit dezelfde isolatie onder, deze zit er al meer dan 4 jaar onder, ook zonder problemen.

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor saw124 » vr dec 17, 2010 9:15 pm

Bij mijn oldtimer(van het andere merk) zit het wel 'vastgeklikt'. Ik meende dat het te maken had met ventilatie ivm condens, maar als vastlijmen ook goed werkt, dan is dat een hele praktische en goedkope oplossing.

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Cimare » di okt 18, 2011 10:36 pm

Ik heb bij de stealer een originele isolatiemat besteld voor mijn diesel.
Die heeft origineel zo'n alu plaatje boven de turbo. Vandaar dat ik de mat
van Febi niet aandurf, die heeft dat niet.
Het verwijderen van de oude verweerde mat ging veel gemakkelijker dan ik dacht.
Wel even een doek over de motor heen spannen, al die troep wil je er niet op/in hebben.

Lijmspray van motip werkte voor geen meter. Lijmspray van Bison gelukkig wel.
Bij onze 190 zit hij er nu een half jaar op met bison lijmspray, en bij mijn diesel nu 1 dag... hahaha. Merkte wel direct verschil toen de mat er af was en ik de auto moest verplaatsen, best wel meer herrie, nu dus weer lekker stil. En als ik de kap open dan hoef ik met niet meer te schamen voor een half los hangende mat. :laugh:
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Sterretje1968 » di okt 18, 2011 10:40 pm

Hele goede tip van je motor afdekken.
Groetjes, Rene.

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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Youpy » wo okt 19, 2011 6:45 pm

Spuitlijm van TE-taxiteile werkt ook niet, mat blijft niet (meteen) hangen.
Dit volgens de desbetreffende monteur.
Hij heeft toen een blik bison gehaald dat werkte wel.

Ik zie nu op hun dat ze andere hebben, mijn spuitbus was lichtgrijs(met groene opdruk volgens mij).
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Re: Isolatiemateriaal motorkap

Berichtdoor Cimare » do okt 20, 2011 9:35 pm

Die grijze spuitbus met licht groene opdruk is dus van Motip en werkt dus inderdaad niet. Bison spuitlijm gaat goed. Plakt meteen.
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