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Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Onspietje » di nov 03, 2020 11:43 pm

Hallo Mercedes fans, ik heb in mijn boot een OM603 (zonder turbo) staan
waar mee ik al bijna 30 zonder problemen vaar. De afgelopen tijd kwam er
zwarte smeerolie onder de motor te staan. Nu lijkt het er op dat de
oliekeerring aan de vliegwiel kant van de krukas lekt. Voordat ik alles uit ga bouwen wil ik
eerst weten waar ik aan begin en wat ik allemaal tegen ga komen.. Zijn er
onder jullie mensen die kunnen beschrijven. hoe z'n oliekeerring wordt
vervangen? Hebben jullie ook tekeningen of afbeeldingen hoe de keerring zit
gemonteerd en hoe deze verwijderd moet worden en natuurlijk ook hoe te
monteren zonder andere problemen te veroorzaken. Ik verneem graag van
jullie. bvb dank.
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor -SK- » do nov 05, 2020 7:33 pm

Hallo onspietje, uit je voorsteltopic begrijp ik dat het bij jou gaat om de achterste krukaskeerring.
Voor de OM60x motoren is dat in principe hetzelfde.

Heb je al op youtube gekeken?

bijvoorbeeld:





Een WIS W124 (eventueel zou WIS W201 ook kunnen) kan jou verder helpen met sleutelen aan de techniek.
De voorzijde van het motorblok zal dan ook wel een uitgeharde krukaskeerring hebben als daar nooit iets aan is gebeurd, dus die dan ook maar gelijk wisselen? Gebruik wel topkwaliteit, dus origineel Mercedes-Benz en anders Elring, Lemförder o.i.d. kopen.

Voorbeeld wisselen voorste krukaskeerring op een OM602 (1988)


Wanneer je liever niet wilt sleutelen zou je eens AT 205 re-seal kunnen proberen:

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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Onspietje » vr nov 06, 2020 10:05 pm

Jongens bedankt voor de goede hulp. Ik weet nu hoe het moet, het is eenvoudiger dan verwacht.
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Onspietje » do maart 11, 2021 12:49 pm

Hallo Mercedes liefhebbers,
Het is zover, ik ben begonnen met het demonteren van de OM603 uit mijn boot. De keerkoppeling is er af en de demperplaat is gedemonteerd. Nu is het vliegwiel aan de beurt. ik zie een soort Torx bouten waar een ringsleutel van 12 mm op past. Maar omdat deze bouten vrij diep in het vliegwiel zitten (handgeschakelde motor) kun je niet goed kracht zetten op de sleutel en is de kans groot dat de sleutel er af zal schieten en de boutkop en sleutel beschadigd. Om de ellende van het uitboren van een bout waar geen sleutel meer op past te voorkomen wil ik mij eerst even goed informeren hoe dit aan te pakken. Klopt het dat de bouten van het vliegwiel een twaalf kantige 12 mm boutkop hebben? Of is het een Torx boutkop of iets speciaals van Mercedes? Als het een speciale dop is waar kun je die ergens kopen? En als de bouten later terug worden geplaatst met welk koppel moeten ze dan worden aangedraaid? Ik hoop dat er onder jullie iemand is die mij antwoord kan geven op deze vragen.
B.v.d.
Onspietje.
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor John.M » do maart 11, 2021 9:05 pm

Onspietje,

Kijk zo ziet dat er uit
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Met de juiste dop en een slagmoersleutel een eitje :whistle: ;)
Aanhaal moment weet ik zo niet, dacht uit m'n hoofd 35NM

Kijk
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Deze OM 602 bouwde ik in 1995 onze voormalige kruiser, die draait er nog steeds.
Ik was destijds één van de eerste die met een dergelijke motor ging varen :dance:
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Onspietje » do maart 11, 2021 11:06 pm

John.M bedankt voor de snelle reactie. Mijn OM603 is in 1992 ingebouwd en heeft al bijna 30 jaar zonder problemen gedraaid. Alleen de laatste jaren begint hij olie te lekken langs de afdichting achter het vliegwiel. Ik ben gestart met het vervangen van de voor en achter keerringen van de krukas. Maar omdat ik twijfel of de bouten van het vliegwiel met een twaalf kantige 12 mm dop los gedraaid kan worden of moet het met een speciale dop gebeuren? zo ja, waar kan ik z'n dop kopen?
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Onspietje » za maart 20, 2021 6:05 pm

Hallo Mercedes deskundigen,
Ik ben bezig met het vervangen van de krukas keerringen en ik stuit op een mogelijk probleem. De keerring aan de voorkant loop op een demontabele naaf met flens. Zie bijlage. Deze heb ik met een poelie trekker er af gehaald. Bij inspectie zag ik groeven op het loopvlak waarop de keerring loopt. Ik denk dat deze groeven er niet horen. Mijn vraag is dan ook horen deze groeven op dit loopvlak of is het slijtage? Als het slijtage is moet dit onderdeel dan vervangen worden? Aan de achterkant dacht ik ook groeve te zien (is slecht te zien omdat dit verder in de motor zit). als het slijtage is moet dan de gehele krukas worden vervangen? ik hoor graag van jullie hoe dit op te lossen. B.v.b. dank.
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » zo maart 21, 2021 10:03 pm

Even opgezocht.
Als de keerring een groef in de naaf heeft gesleten, moet/kan je de nieuwe keerring 2 mm dieper zetten.
De achterste bij het vliegwiel kan 3 mm dieper. De nieuwe keerring komt dan op een groefloos stuk van de naaf.
Op deze zijn meerdere groeven te zien, 3(?), en weet niet of die mogelijk er nog is.
Die naaf is nog leverbaar maar best prijzig: 240 Euro....
Alternatieven zijn er ook vanaf 20 Euro, googlen op het artikelnummer: 104 030 0008
Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Keerring vervangen OM603

Berichtdoor Onspietje » ma maart 22, 2021 2:25 pm

Bedankt voor de reacties, ik ben er goed mee geholpen.
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