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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor DJS » do aug 14, 2014 8:23 pm

Ja. ;) Richt hem op de motor en je hebt een lekker nauwkeurige aflezing. Je kunt hem het beste op een vergelijkbare plek als die van de temperatuurmeter in de auto richten. ;)
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Gullwing » do aug 14, 2014 9:00 pm

Een ouderwetse thermometer in het expansievat is de meest betrouwbare meting.
Wanneer alles in orde is staat de meter op 80°.
De koelvin slaat als het goed is aan bij 100°.
Er is ruimte voor twijfel over de aanwijzing door het inschakelen van de vin.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor SanderDTCH » vr aug 15, 2014 6:53 am

Morguh bram.

Klopt met 100 gr moet hij aanslaan en de sensor kleur aan de bovenkant moet rood zijn en 2 polig want je heb ook nog een blauwe.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor DJS » vr aug 15, 2014 10:57 am

Het is begrijpelijk dat de temperatuur in het expansievat eerst wat lager ligt. Wanneer de thermostaat bij 85 graden opent, begint het koelsysteem pas goed te circuleren. Je geeft zelf aan dat de temperatuur in het expansievat 84 graden is, dit is prima. ;) Dat de van in het begin ligt meedraait, komt door de visco koppeling die in het begin ook niet volledig weerstandvrij is. De aircofan zou wel wat later mogen aanslaan. De voorgeschreven temperatuur ligt volgens mij op 95 graden Celsius.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Wiersma » vr aug 15, 2014 11:07 am

De temp van de aircofan ligt zelfs nog hoger, 105/110 graden
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Wiersma » vr aug 15, 2014 1:39 pm

PM je chassisnummer maar, kan ik je het wel vertellen.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Wiersma » vr aug 15, 2014 4:44 pm

De sensor zit hier:
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In het document staat 107 graden. En het is een blauwe sensor.

Hier is het hele document. Let op er zitten verschillende motoren in dus even de om603 turbo zoeken.
En zitten verschillend in jaartallen. Verhaal over tempaansturing fan begint op pagina 22.

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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Gullwing » vr aug 15, 2014 5:54 pm

Lex, de temperatuur is prima in orde.
Het enige vraagteken op dit moment is het aanslaan van de elektrische fan, die begint bij een te lage temperatuur.

De elektrische fan kent twee manieren van inschakelen:
1. zodra de airco compressor aanslaat
2. wanneer het koelmiddel een temperatuur van 100 graden bereikt.

1. valt af, de airco kan niet inschakelen omdat het systeem leeg is.
2. geeft aan dat de thermo schakelaar iets te enthousiast is, vervangen door een exemplaar dat op de juiste temperatuur inschakelt.

Er zit altijd wat tolerantie in de aangegeven waarde van de temperatuur meter in de auto.
Tien graden lijkt me wat veel. Je zou kunnen proberen of het verwisselen van de temperatuurzender wat oplevert.
Voor de gebruiker is het belangrijker een afwijking van de normaal aangegeven temperatuur te constateren dan de absolute waarde te kennen.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Wiersma » vr aug 15, 2014 6:14 pm

Waarschijnlijk dit nummer: A0085424517
Helaas staat in WIS geen nummers.

Hier het draadschema:
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M4 is de aircofan
S32 (druk) en K10 zijn voor de regeling voor de airco.
K9 is de relais voor de temperatuur. En die krijgt aansturing via x26/6 naar N19
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Wiersma » vr aug 15, 2014 6:30 pm

Die sensor A0085425617 is voor je tempmeter, en die hoort in de kop te zitten volgens EPC op jou chassisnummer.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » vr aug 15, 2014 6:33 pm

Het spijt mij vreselijk maar dit soort tekeningen/schema's, aar kom ik niet uit.

Heb beide nummers op google bekeken.

Zijn beide temperatuur sencoren. Ze zijn ook beide bijna gelijk. Met dit verschil dat de A0085425617 een derde plastick pool heeft.
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Re: Motor temperatuur

Berichtdoor Wiersma » vr aug 15, 2014 6:43 pm

Hoe is het mogelijk, ik heb ooit wat sensoren van de sloop gehaald.
Die volgens EPC erin hoort heb ik hier te liggen A0085424517
Ik weet niet of hij het doet, maar je mag het van mij hebben.

Als ik doormeet op weerstand meet ik 3,84 Kohm bij kamertemperatuur (21)

Haha, ik ben juist van de schema's, ik kan zelf mondeling niks duidelijk maken :ugeek:
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