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milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » vr dec 04, 2015 6:19 pm

In 2016 mag ik met mijn auto de binnenstad niet meer in... mijn Benz is wel uitgerust met een katalisator/lambda (achteraf ingebouwd bij Mercedes Benz dealer 1992 in Duitsland).
Maar ik heb niet de aanduiding U9 op het kenteken,daarom heb ik een vraag gesteld op de site gezonderelucht.nl en kreeg dit als antwoord:


Bedankt voor uw e-mail. Hierin geeft u aan dat uw auto is uitgerust met een katalysator met lambdasonde en vraagt hoe u ervoor kunt zorgen dat u nu wel de milieuzone in mag komen.

Wanneer u denkt dat uw auto vergelijkbaar of schoner is dan op basis van de DET mag worden verwacht, dan kunt u een langdurige ontheffing aanvragen voor de milieuzone. Voor voertuigen waarvoor deze aanduiding niet is vastgelegd bij de RDW beoordeelt de gemeente of de uitstoot van de auto vergelijkbaar of schoner is dan op basis van de leeftijd van de auto mag worden aangenomen. Voor deze beoordeling is ‘bewijsmateriaal’ nodig. Dit kan zijn:

• Een typekeuringsbewijs van de dealer of fabrikant van je auto waaruit blijkt dat deze schoner is dan verwacht. Uit dit bewijs moet de Euroklasse van je auto blijken. Of dat de auto een geregelde katalysator heeft met de aanduiding E2, K6-G of U9.
• Een typekeuringsbewijs van een door de RDW erkende instantie. Bijvoorbeeld TüV of Horiba in Duitsland. Uit dit bewijs moet de Euroklasse van uw auto blijken. Of dat de auto een geregelde katalysator heeft met de aanduiding E2, K6-G of U9. Let op: Het zelf laten keuren van uw auto kan duur zijn.
• Een verklaring van een BOVAG-erkende garage. Hierin moet staan dat deze garage een TüV-gecertificeerde ombouwkit heeft geïnstalleerd in uw auto. Uit de TüV-certificering moet blijken dat verwacht wordt dat de auto na installatie van de complete ombouwkit minstens zo schoon is als Euro-1 (benzine/LPG) of Euro-3 (diesel).
• Een verklaring van een door BOVAG-erkende garage dat er nieuwe(re) onderdelen zijn geïnstalleerd in de motor of het uitlaatgasnabehandelingssysteem. Het moet gaan om onderdelen die standaard in auto’s zijn ingebouwd met een typekeuring Euro-1 of hoger (benzine/LPG). Of Euro-3 of hoger (diesel).

Indien nodig legt de gemeente Rotterdam uw bewijsmateriaal voor aan een onafhankelijk partij die ons adviseert. Een langdurige ontheffing kost 178,20 per aanvraag. De ontheffing is onbeperkt geldig.
Vanaf 1 januari 2016 kunt u digitaal een aanvraag doen. Wilt u deze langdurige ontheffing al eerder aanvragen? Stuur dan een e-mail naar gezonderelucht@rotterdam.nl.

Ik hoop dat ik uw vragen voldoende heb beantwoord. Wilt u meer weten over de milieuzone? Kijk dan op http://www.gezonderelucht.nl.
Wilt u op de hoogte blijven van alle ontwikkelingen? Meld u dan aan voor de nieuwsbrief via http://www.gezonderelucht.nl.

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor RNRS001 » vr dec 04, 2015 8:18 pm

Ik had het er toevallig over met de monteur en die zei ook dat ze er wel door moeten komen. Echter, ik vind 178E echt een belachelijk bedrag voor een ontheffing. Echt schandalig. De bewijslast dat mijn auto schadelijk is voor het milieu ligt bij de gemeente. Zij beweren immers dat ik schuldig ben dus zouden de kosten bij hun moeten liggen.
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor walsumhof » vr dec 04, 2015 11:01 pm

mee eens, echt te walgelijk voor woorden 178e hiervoor te durven te vragen.

Zit met zelfde issue, heb een geimporteerde 300CE met een geregelde katalysator en een 'D3' milieunormering, zelfs nog met de bekende Duitse groene sticker op de voorruit. Echter op het kentekenbewijs heeft de RDW bij de inschrijving geen milieuklasse overgenomen - toen niet naar gevraagd maar schijnt gebruikelijk te zijn. Wellicht dat dit achteraf wel aan te passen valt - iemand ervaring mee ?
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Jadystana » vr dec 04, 2015 11:11 pm

Het is uberhaupt dramatisch dat als je wel U9 in je kenteken hebt staan je alsnog ontheffing aan moet vragen...
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Gullwing » vr dec 04, 2015 11:31 pm

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Stofzuigerman » za dec 05, 2015 12:27 am

deze al gezien ?

Protest tegen de milieuzone in Rotterdam http://milieuzonerotterdam.nl/

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor WillieW124 » za dec 05, 2015 12:41 am

Ja manne uw vervuilende wage bij de stadsgrens late staan en lopende verder, en ondertussen gooit uw buurman nog maar
Weer een geverfd plankske in die heerlijk ronkende allesbrander, kenne we maar weer geniete van de gerookte makrelenlucht op onze slaapkamer :clap: :dance: .
Dass de grootste vervuiler van de laatste 10 jaar , op het aardgas betale we een dikke milieutoeslag en de houtkachelmafia verstikt ons zonder een cent te betale :Kerst:
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » za dec 05, 2015 8:20 am

Ik heb de auto in 2011 ingevoerd uit Duitsland,gelukkig zaten alle papieren er nog bij...zoals het originele dealer document dat de geregelde kat in 1992 is ingebouwd.
En het kentekenbewijs van de vorige eigenaar (Duits) met daar op de vermelding Euro 2 en ook heb ik nog de groene sticker op de voorruit .
Dus ik denk dat ik met deze bewijzen een heel eind kom...ik ga maar eens een aanvraag per mail indienen.

Maar het blijft natuurlijk belachelijk dat dit 178 euro moet kosten.

ik hou jullie op de hoogte.
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor JosW124 » za dec 05, 2015 5:49 pm

Vraagje, waar is de roetmeting bij de APK goed voor?
(Behalve dan de prijs er van)

Nog maar één; Hoe zit het met het vliegverkeer boven Rotjeknor, ook groene stickers in Duitsland halen?

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Prometheus » ma dec 07, 2015 9:02 am

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor JosW124 » ma dec 07, 2015 9:14 am

Is het dan zo dat de emissies van auto's worden beperkt om volgens de wetgeving ruimte aan de uitstoot van die kolencentrales te geven?
En waar komt al die steenkool vandaan?
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Prometheus » ma dec 07, 2015 9:45 am

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor JosW124 » ma dec 07, 2015 9:57 am

Dus, terwijl iedereen gek wordt gemaakt met gezever over Co2, wordt de gehele Rotterdamse bevolking en daar omheen de nek omgedraaid door de uitstoot van fijnstof een probleem waar nog steeds zo goed als geen ophef over wordt gemaakt.
Ik heb ooit eens op school geleerd dat planten en bomen van Co2 zuurstof maken.
Dat er in de kassen in het Westland Co2 wordt gebruikt om de gewassen sneller en beter te doen groeien.
Ligt Columbia nog steeds in Zuid Amerika.
Wat zijn de totale energiekosten om die steenkool naar R'dam te vervoeren?
Krankzinnig idee om kolencentrales te bouwen anno 2015.
Wie heeft er werkelijk belang bij? (financieel)
Follow the money.
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Jadystana » di dec 15, 2015 10:11 pm

Lachen, er iets is veranderd, ik mag er nu wel in... (dit nav een artikel op de telegraaf van een man die zijn prachtige Volvo hierom al had verkocht en toen 2 weken later te horen kreeg dat ie er toch wel in mocht).
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor DaimlerBenz » di dec 15, 2015 11:00 pm

Jij hebt u9 op je kentekenbewijs staan dus volgens mij mocht je er eerst ook al in..
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Prometheus » wo dec 16, 2015 8:34 am

Ja, nog wel. In het plan wordt gesproken van een jaarlijkse evaluatie en evt. bijstelling.
Die blijven nog wel even draaien want de EON gaat niet ff 1,4 miljard afschrijven (zal er wel op uitdraaien dat een evt. vervroegde sluiting financieel afgewenteld wordt op de belastingbetaler).
Dus wed ik bij deze dat met ingang van 1-1-2017 ook deze auto's er niet (meer) in mogen, want veel verbetering van de luchtkwaliteit gaan ze in 2016 niet meten na deze maatregel en toegeven dat ze een verkeerd besluit hebben genomen is in de politiek uiteraard 'not done' .
Dus rond deze tijd volgend jaar wordt er weer getoeterd dat de maatregel nog niet voldoende effect heeft gesorteerd en moeten ook deze 'vuile' auto's geweerd worden :twisted:
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Jadystana » wo dec 16, 2015 9:59 am

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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor JosW124 » wo dec 16, 2015 10:15 am

Toelating zou dienen te geschieden op basis van de resultaten van de roetmeting.
Roet is fijnstof, No2, veel gevaarlijker voor ons en het eco systeem dan Co2, hetgeen noodzakelijk is voor de toename van zuurstof via de plantenwereld.
Met een kolencentrale om de hoek maakt het allemaal geen ene flikker uit, behalve voor de belastingsmaffia van de criminele zakkenvullers.
En nog steeds het volk laten geloven dat een beter milieu bij jezelf begint?
Joh, dat is nou net een goede reden een oude Benz te rijden en deze goed te onderhouden.
Ik meen dat als je een miljoen km met dezelfde auto kunt rijden je redelijk duurzaam bezig bent, i.p.v. wetten aan te passen die er voor zorgen dat al die auto's verdwijnen.
Telkens weer is mijn keurmeester verbaasd over de lage uitstoot van onze Benzen, ze zijn beiden van eind jaren '80...
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Re: milieuzone Rotterdam 2016

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » wo dec 16, 2015 7:27 pm

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