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Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » di okt 29, 2013 9:12 pm

Hallo,

Ik heb een vraag over de Becker Mexico CD Kurier die in mijn 300E zit. Uiteraard al op het forum gezocht maar niet gevonden.

Met enige regelmaat is de radio van de zender afgelopen als de auto even stil (uit) heeft gestaan. De presets zijn dan nog wel aanwezig, maar hij staat niet meer op die zender. Ook de balans instelling is verdwenen (hoge en lage tonen vreemd genoeg niet). Vreemd genoeg komt het voor dat die 's ochtend gewoon nog op de zender staat en de volgende keer na een uur al de instellingen kwijt is. Er zit geen systeem in.
Zelf al wat nagedacht. Vaste + kan het niet zijn; anders waren de problemen wel meer structureel. Zit er wellicht een batterij of knoopcel in de Becker die problemen kan geven?

Iemand ideeën?

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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor Jurjen S » wo okt 30, 2013 8:04 am

Denk dat ie een kleine electrische revisie nodig heeft ;) Nieuwe elco's waarschijnlijk en even controleren op slechte contacten. 100% zeker weten doe ik dat niet natuurlijk, maar dat zou ik doen bij zulke klachten in oude 70's en 80 hifi voor thuis ;) Dus zal voor autoradio's ook wel op gaan.
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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor Gullwing » wo okt 30, 2013 9:37 pm

Een Becker radio werkt bijna altijd met de vaste spanning van de accu voor de back up van het geheugen.
Controleer de spanningsvoorziening eerst voor je de radio wegbrengt om te repareren.
Er zijn maar weinig technici die deze toestellen goed kennen, bij Becker zelf is erg duur.
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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » wo okt 30, 2013 10:57 pm

Dank! Ik ga eerst even de aansluitingen controleren. Is er ergens op het forum een aansluitschema voorhanden? Voor het geval dit geen soelaas biedt :? , zijn er specialisten in Nederland die wat verstand hebben van Becker?

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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » ma nov 07, 2016 9:33 am

Mede forum leden,

Na enige jaren met een 'eigenwijze Becker' te hebben rondgereden afgelopen zomer maar de stap genomen een blackbox en bedieningseenheid uitgebouwd en naar Audioservice in IJlst gebracht. Dit zijn echt tovenaars met 'audio op leeftijd'. Alle e-componenten zijn vervangen. We hebben nog 1 hobbel te nemen. Na uitgebreide testen blijkt dat de cpu van de blackbox is overleden. En....niet meer de vinden......Ook Becker Duitsland laat verstek gaan...

Heeft iemand nog wat?

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Berichtdoor John.M » ma nov 07, 2016 10:32 am

Rob Hackert?
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Berichtdoor MatthieuM » ma nov 07, 2016 10:51 pm

Wellicht. Hoe kan ik die bereiken?
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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » di nov 08, 2016 12:09 am

Zo, hier ben ik! wat voor type Becker heb je? BE....?
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Berichtdoor MatthieuM » di nov 08, 2016 2:25 pm

BE876 Mexico Kurier CD. Bediening in de front (uiteraard) & blackbox in de kofferruimte. Ben op zoek naar de CPU van de blackbox....
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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » di nov 08, 2016 4:47 pm

hallo Matthieu,

een losse CPU van de ontvanger/versterker daar is niet meer aan te komen....het is zowiezo al heel moeilijk om aan een complete ontvanger/versterker te komen.

welk nummer staat er op je ontvanger/versterker? BE ....
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Berichtdoor MatthieuM » di nov 08, 2016 7:35 pm

Hi Rob,

BE0876 serienummer X8011581.

Alternatief; CPU repareren?
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Berichtdoor Eemspoort » wo nov 09, 2016 9:58 am

*off-topic* Hackert, die naam ken ik ergens van. Zit tegen mij op te bieden op een Becker "Mercedes Benz Special" met cd-wisselaar... Ben jij dat toevallig, Rob Hackert?
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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » wo aug 01, 2018 11:17 am

Mede forum leden,

Heel lang geleden ben ik deze topic gestart. Inmiddels zijn we (samen met Audioservice) zo ver dat we moeten vaststellen dat een cpu (het kapotte onderdeel) waarschijnlijk niet meer gevonden zal worden. Dat betekent dat ik nu plan b ga uitvoeren. Montage van een becker BE 0860. Past ook bij dit jaartal. Punt is alleen dat deze radio’s een andere verbindingskabel hebben.

De vraag is nu wie heeft er nog een kabel liggen. Voor de volledigheid even een foto van de aansluiting bijgevoegd.

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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » do nov 01, 2018 10:20 pm

Mede forumleden,

Even een update. Inmiddels heb ik ook een kabel voor een Becker 0860 kunnen bemachtigen via Königs Klassiek. Kost wel wat, maar ik zag het niet zitten om een modern spreeuwenkastje te monteren. Originaliteit mag wat kosten...;-//
Volgende uitdaging dient zich aan. Ik wil eigenlijk de kabel van de 0876 laten liggen en de nieuwe er naast leggen. Dat moet op zich te doen zijn. De kabel gaat via het paneel in de kofferbak en komt dan onder de zitting van de achterbank uit. Ik gok dat die dan ergens over de bodem onder de bijrijdersstoel over de cardantunnel het middenconsole in gaat. Dat laatste kan ik zien. Om voldoende ruimte te maken moet ik het middenconsole verwijderen. Dus ook de zijkant. Voordat ik daar aan ga zitten sjorren; weet iemand hoe je het midden console netjes demonteert?

Alvast dank!

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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » vr nov 02, 2018 11:49 am

Is het niet handiger om de kabel onder de stoel ipv linksaf naar de middenconsole, rechtdoor naar de A-stijl te leiden?
Aan het eind van de kabelgoot omhoog en dan achter het dashboard langs naar de middenconsole.

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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » vr nov 02, 2018 10:18 pm

Da’s ook wel iets om te overwegen. Moet er wel voldoende lengte in de kabel zitten. Dank!
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Re: Eigenwijze Becker

Berichtdoor MatthieuM » zo sep 08, 2019 3:07 pm

Nou, inmiddels weer een jaar verder. BE 0860 uiteindelijk niet ingebouwd. Die heb ik dus nu (incl kabel) over, maar dat is een ander topic.... :)
Na heeeeeeel lang zoeken gisteren een versterker voor een 0876 uit D’land opgehaald (altijd een goed excuus om de 300E weer even te gebruiken waar die voor bedoeld was....). En zowaar, het werkt! Een puntje van zorg. Bij mij zijn om een of andere reden constante + en de geschakelde + doorgelust. Bij mijn oude versterker was de geschakelde + niet eens aangesloten, maar die nieuwe doet het alleen met ook spanning op de geschakelde +. Wat ik ook wel kan begrijpen. Voordat ik de boel vastsoldeer. Weet iemand of het kwaad kan een vaste + op de geschakelde te zetten?
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