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W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » do nov 24, 2016 12:53 pm

Hallo,

Ik ben ondertussen iets verder met m'n zoektocht om mijn auto weer aan de praat te krijgen.

Ik heb de startblokkering zover dat ik gewoon kan starten en ik krijg ook gewoon diesel bij mijn brandstofpomp.

Het vreemde is dat ik geen diesel krijg bij mijn verstuivers.

Ik heb de vacuĆ¼m stop op de brandstofpomp afgekoppeld en gecontroleerd of deze ook misschien blijft hangen maar deze werkt ook goed.

Is het bij deze types misschien zo dat de brandstofpomp ook nog elektronisch geblokkeerd wordt of zijn deze pompen zonder een eventuele elektronische blokkering dus puur mechanisch.

Of is m'n pomp kapot? Ik hoop t niet.

Alle hulp is welkom!

Gr. Bert.

Ps, weten jullie anders iemand die gespecialiseerd is in deze types, ik ben ondertussen een beetje radeloos.
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor peterjori » do nov 24, 2016 3:22 pm

van waar ben je ?
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » do nov 24, 2016 4:19 pm

Ik woon in Assen.
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor Harolds » do nov 24, 2016 6:14 pm

Jaap Pul op Urk.
Weet alles van diesels en helemaal als ze van Mercedes zijn.
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor Sierra300dmotor » do nov 24, 2016 8:32 pm

er zit een mechanische pomp op niks electronisch, zou wel alles even nalopen op je pomp mss dat er iets loszit?
of proberen te ontluchten heb je ook naar je brandstof filter gekeken de rubbers wilen ook wel eens invreten en daardoor de doorgangblokkeren naar je leidingen
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor ScareMercy » do nov 24, 2016 10:43 pm

Wat heb je aangepast aan je startblokkering? Normaal sluit je startblokkering de stroom naar je startmotor en de diesel vanuit je tank af. Ook stuurt hij het vacuum stop ventiel op de pomp aan zodat je pomp de diesel afsluit.
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » za nov 26, 2016 7:08 am

Ik heb de startblokkering omgewisseld met een van een andere auto met de bijbehorende sleutel maar dat had geen effect.
De oude er weer in en sleutels opnieuw inleren en toen kon ik starten.

Daarna Zover gekomen dat ik diesel bij brandstofpomp krijg maar niet bij de verstuivers.

Nu zit hoogstwaarschijnlijk een of meerdere plunjers in de brandstofpomp vast dus deze haal ik er zondag even achter weg om hem uit elkaar te pakken.

Als deze te repareren is komt die er weer achter en anders komt er wel een ruilpomp op.

Ik hou jullie op de hoogte van de vorderingen.

Gr. Bert.
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor Niels » za nov 26, 2016 4:41 pm

Bert,

Er is eigenlijk zelden een probleem met die lijnpompen....
Nu weet ik dat het ontluchten van deze motoren wel eens lang kan duren. Accu leeg moeten starten heb ik al vaak gehad.
Zit er lucht in het systeem?
Ik doe het ontluchten vaak door een handje te helpen middels het losdraaien van een paar verstuiverleidingen.

Dan is het zeker met dit koude weer niet onwaarschijnlijk dat het systeem ergens lucht aanzuigd.
De plastic slangen rondom de pomp zijn vaak de boosdoener.
Verder kunnen het verwarmingselement op de cylinderlop als ook het voorfilter op het brandstoffilter ook nog de boosdoeners van valse lucht zijn....

Hoop dat je hier wat aan hebt.

Mocht een persklep in de pomp niet mee doen moet hij volgens mij gewoon starten echtrr zal dan op 5cilinders lopen.

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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » za nov 26, 2016 8:28 pm

Niels,

Er zit een plunjer vast en geen persklep en dan is het onmogelijk om te ontluchten.

Verstuiver leidingen heb ik los dat is volgens mij ook de enige manier om te ontluchten bij een diesel met conventionele brandstofpomp.

Het schijnt wel vaker voor te komen dat dit type Bosch lijnpomp in combinatie met Duitse diesel en een aantal (7) jaren stil staan vast gaan zitten.

Als je het inspectie deksel van de pomp schroeft dan kun je het checken doordat de verstelling in de pomp vast zit.

Ik haal hem morgen van t blok af en ga een poging doen om de pomp te reanimeren.

Ik hou jullie op de hoogte,

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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor the swede » zo nov 27, 2016 12:46 pm

Ik ben het ondertussen helemaal kwijt :D

Kan je ook even foto's van de werken maken, Bert?

Kunnen we er ook iets van opsteken.
Ik moet hoogdringend het aantal wagens beginnen verminderen.
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » ma dec 05, 2016 5:14 pm

Ik ben niet zo goed met foto's plaatsen en dat soort dingen als ik tijd heb zal ik me er eens in gaan verdiepen.

Probleem gevonden!!!

Op het brandstoffilter zaten twee leidingen verkeerd en nadat ik ze omgedraaid had was het starten en lopen.

Probleem met de startblokkering zat hem in de voeding. Nadat ik er een nieuwe overspanning relais in heb gezet doet alles het zoals het moet!

Nu maar het RDW voor een kenteken!

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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor Ekkie » ma dec 05, 2016 9:04 pm

waaruit weer blijkt dat het probleem simpeler is dan gedacht, hulde!
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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor Sierra300dmotor » di dec 06, 2016 7:38 am

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Re: W124 300D24V 1994 brandstofpomp probleem

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » di dec 06, 2016 9:08 am

Yuup!, Was een van de 4 storingen.

Brandstofpomp, filter leidingen kabelboom en relais.

Uitdaging noemen ze dat geloof ik.....
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