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om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor Beunhaas17 » vr sep 29, 2017 7:09 am

goeiemorgen techneuten en hobbyisten,

nu heb ik een om603a op de kop getikt die ik binnenkort in m'n 300D ga bouwen, en ik zou hier graag wat meer vermogen uithalen zonder direct grotere plunjers in de pomp te hoeven zetten,
Zijn er hier mensen die een holset hx30/35 o.i.d in combinatie met of zonder intercooler hebben op een om603a? en wat is het resultaat hiervan?
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor w126560td » zo okt 15, 2017 11:28 pm

Mooi onderwerp, ik ben ook van plan om iets met mijn om603 turbo motor te doen maar kan hierover ook niks vinden op deze forum. Ik zou ook graag iets aan de turbo willen veranderen of geheel andere type turbo. Mijn auto loopt nu 230+km/h maar ik zou toch iets meer trek kracht willen..... (W126 om603 Turbo) bij mij is alleen de wastegatelater gezet.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor Wouter61636 » ma okt 16, 2017 7:09 am

ik haak ook aan op dit draadje!
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor Beunhaas17 » di okt 17, 2017 11:49 am

Weet 1 van jullie ook hoe je een 3,5 liter van een 3 liter kunt onderscheiden? ;D
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor Beunhaas17 » di okt 17, 2017 11:50 am

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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » di jan 02, 2018 11:51 am

regelaar op de turbo paar slagen indraaien , meer turbodruk goed verschil te merken. Zal wel foto's maken.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor MB280E » di jan 02, 2018 12:41 pm

Best doen met een aangesloten drukmeter. Standaard is ongeveer 0,9bar.

De beveiliging grijpt in rond de 1,0 - 1,1bar.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » di jan 02, 2018 1:52 pm

Dat zeker doen inderdaad.


Heb thuis nog een astra staan wat ik bij 530.000km heb gekieteld na 1.5 bar ( standaard 0,6 bar) met meer diesel inspuiting, schroef 240graad ingedraaid op de pomp (roken niet normaal).. Inmiddels 653.000km en nog nooit opengeweest en 1ste turbo, sprintje na 100 in nog geen 9 tellen , standaard 15seconde.


Wil je echt het echte bereiken zou ik er een 606 in leggen met 603 pomp met grotere plunjers. Op marktplaats verkoopt iemand complete blokken met 603 pomp opgevoerd.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » di jan 02, 2018 9:34 pm

Ik denk dat je Cor Kuin bedoeld....

Die bouwt die pompen om en heeft ook de set om een elektronisch gestuurde bak om te bouwen.

Je kunt er ver mee gaan idd, ik hou het liever origineel.

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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » do jan 04, 2018 2:14 pm

Klopt inderdaad

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-onder ... ousPage=lr

Vind de mijne snelzat nu voorlopig.. Maar is wel fun beetje power onder kap. :dance:
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » vr jan 05, 2018 1:59 pm

Ik heb ondertussen contact gehad met Cor.. ( link van Markplaats )

Als ik enkel een gerisiveerde pomp pak met 7,5mm plunjers met inbouw kost het 1400,- enkel alleen de pomp met grotere elementen kost 1150,- dus met 1400,- word de pomp ingebouwd en goed afgesteld.

advies van Cor neem een holset hx35 turbo met grotere intercooler dan is 275pk haalbaar met de om603 blok.

Ik ga er paar daagjes overslapen, aangezien mijn blok pas 283.000km heeft gelopen en een ombouw tot om606 te duur vind.

Als ik ooit wil overstappen na een om606 blok kan ik de turbo en pomp mee overzetten.

Enkel alleen de pomp monteren met turbodruk omhoog zal je ook al op 190pk uit komen.. Ik hoef echt geen strepen trekker , want 450pk bijv is ook niet leuk rijden met een diesel.

Wil eerst toch gaan voor een intercooler, altijd beter voor het blok en koude lucht in het blok levert ook weer paar pk op.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor BertusBonk » vr jan 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Ik heb ook gedacht aan een ombouw naar een 606 in de auto maar dat wordt mij allemaal een beetje te gek.
Mocht ik een keer tegen een goede 300D turbo aanlopen met automaatbak dan overweeg ik die evt in te bouwen maar voorlopig hou ik het even voor wat het is.

Heb net alles weer terug gebracht naar origineel en mijn automaat is 10.000 km geleden compleet gereviseerd dus dat vind ik ook een beetje zonde...

Maar het blijft mooi om te zien!

Kijk maar eens op de site www.ofgear.dk daar staat ook het een en andere...

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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » za jan 06, 2018 6:46 pm

Ja zeker!

Vandaag turbodruk meter geplaatst en de turbodruk staat nu op 1.1 bar.

Tik maar eens in op youtube OM603 holset hx35 7mm elementen, gaan als de brandweer.

Ik ben al aan het sparen, of ik moet mijn 190E verkocht krijgen dan laat ik me een andere pomp monteren met 7,5mm elementen.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor MB280E » za jan 06, 2018 10:06 pm

Vergeet niet dat je een andere versnellingsbak nodig hebt. De originele gaat het niet lang uithouden.

Vind het een heel leuk project. Jammer dat dit in BE niet kan. Als je iets tegen komt dan ben je het haasje...
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » za jan 06, 2018 10:36 pm

Huidige automaat van de turbodiesel kan dat vermogen prima hebben. Meende tot 600 NM.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor MB280E » zo jan 07, 2018 4:49 pm

600Nm. Dat is veel. Toch denk ik dat je de bak kapot trekt.
Waar kan je terugvinden welke bak welk vermogen en koppel aankan?

Bij mijn 300TDT hangt er momenteel een automaat van een W124 OM606 atmosferisch dieselblok achter (722 435). (Is in het verleden gebeurd, ben er zelf nog maar achter)
Deze kan het huidige koppel niet meer aan. Turbo is eentje van een OM603 3.5. Is een fractie groter en is momenteel afgesteld op een magere 0.9bar.

Ik ben van oordeel als je deze investering wilt doen, dat je dan beter van de OM606 kan vertrekken. Is veel steviger dan de OM603.
Iemand ervaring met vloeistof gekoelde intercooler?
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » zo jan 07, 2018 6:26 pm

Op verschillende forums heb ik het al gelezen dat ze de automaatbak van de om603 laten zitten, dat ze het vermogen prima aankunnen.

Hoeveel vermogen denk je dan nu te hebben met de turbo van een 3,5 ? Ook iets aan de pomp gedaan ?

Dat klopt , misschien kan ik wel gelijk een om606 kopen maar is voor mij allemaal te veel in een keer.
Ik doe graag alles stapje voor stapje, en wil het liefst deze dieselblok houden, klinkt wat rauwer. En Meer als 300pk hoef ik nou ook weer niet.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » zo jan 07, 2018 7:09 pm


Toevallig deze om603 met 316pk ook de automaatbak erachter.
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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor 300TDT » zo jan 07, 2018 10:18 pm

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Re: om603a- Holset turbo + intercooler?

Berichtdoor Beunhaas17 » ma jan 08, 2018 10:46 pm

En de automaat van een 300D , wat kan je daarmee?
Ja ik heb cor kluin ook gecontacteerd, maar 1400 voor een brandstofpomp vind ik nogal, doe ook aan trekkertrek , en daar heb je voor 1400 een pomp die 1000cc leverd, maarja das andere koek.
Maar met standaard elementen in de pomp word een hx35 met intercooler niks denk?
-Benz 300D 1992-
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