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Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » vr okt 20, 2017 5:52 am

Hallo,

Mijn W124 280E schommelt soms in toeren ( doet het niet altijd)
Als hij dan schommelt, trilt hij als de auto wat hogere toeren maakt ! (dit alles in de D met de voet op de rem)

Heb nu 2 keer mee gemaakt dat de toeren zo gingen schommelen dat hij als het ware weg wou rijden ? laat de auto dan stukje op komen ... en het is voorbij ? de toeren schommelen dan even heel erg.

En dan heeft hij dagen lang nergens last van ? vreemd ??

Heeft iemand al ooit zoiets mee gemaakt, of weet iemand wat het zou kunnen zijn ??
Dan zou ik dat graag horen ?

Ik dank u !

groeten

Ben
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » za okt 21, 2017 8:24 am

De stappenmotor even schoonmaken denk ik
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Micha12345 » za okt 21, 2017 10:06 am

Stappenmotor of Potmeter
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » za okt 21, 2017 12:04 pm

Ok bedankt voor de info !

Kan je dat zelf die stappenmotor schoonmaken ?

Waar zit die ?

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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » do okt 26, 2017 5:07 am

Maandag de auto gebracht bij de Mercedes garage om de stappen motor te laten reinigen.
Hopelijk is het probleem nu voor bij, was geen goedkoop grapje dat reinigen :? 297,96 inclusief de btw.
Da viel effe zwaar tegen zeg.


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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » do okt 26, 2017 8:39 am

Wat hebben ze dan allemaal gedaan zeg!!!!...als je even verder op het forum had gezocht dan had je het makkelijk zelf kunnen doen...kwartiertje werk.
hebben ze hem vervangen ? en loopt de motor nu wel goed ?

Hmm ..ik zie nu pas dat het om een 280E gaat....dat zijn hele andere motoren ik vraag me af of deze wel een stappenmotor (IACV) heeft ?
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » do okt 26, 2017 10:15 am

Een 280E M104 heeft inderdaad geen stappenmotor, maar een (al dan niet gedeeltelijke) elektronische gasklep die het stationair toerental afregelt.
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » do okt 26, 2017 10:34 am

Hij reed al goed, had alleen heel af en toe die kuren met stationair . ( 2x voor gekomen in 3 weken)
Dat hij zo erg ging schommelen dat hij wilde weg rijden, even iets op laten komen en over was het ?

Nu nog niks meer gemerkt! maar is 1ste dag na de reparatie.


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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » do okt 26, 2017 11:56 am

Hoe is de motorkabelboom er aan toe?
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » do okt 26, 2017 4:47 pm

Deze motor ligt erin,

Wilde vanmorgen trouwens niet aanslaan, door starten met gas erbij wel !

hele dag weer gestaan en starte als vanouds ?

Auto heeft zo af en toe kuren lijkt het wel, eens in de paar dagen.


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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Micha12345 » do okt 26, 2017 5:15 pm

wat is je toerental bij stationair ?
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » za okt 28, 2017 10:41 am

Toerental bij stationair is +- 700 als hij goed loopt en niet schommelt !
Als hij ligt schommelt van 800 tot 550 schat ik.

Gisteren hele dag onderweg geweest niets aan de hand, maar vanmorgen pfff :cry:

Als je boven de 2000toeren blijft is er niets aan de hand tijdens het rijden,
merkte dat hij begon te trillen en brommen als ik op rotonde af reed en gas los liet, had het gevoel dat hij bleef lopen omdat hij bleef rollen, zodra ik gas gaf pakte hij gewoon weer op en rijdt goed.

Bij stoplicht begon hij weer hevig te schommelen en dreunen , je voelt het dan ook goed in het stuur!
Heb toen gas gegeven met de voet nog op de rem en het was weer over?? ( boven de 2000 toeren)
Volgende stop licht zelfde gedoe, daarna weer over ?

Maar als hij licht schommelt voel je het ook al beetje dreunen in het stuur.... dat is meestal het voor teken dat er zo een ergere aan komt.

Maar had het vandaag voor het eerst dat ik het merkte tijdens het rijden en dan vooral met uit laten tollen voor een rotonde, gas er op boven de 2000toeren en over :?

Dus het reinigen van de stappen motor die er niet op zit heeft ook niet geholpen :S

Hopelijk weet iemand raad !

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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Micha12345 » za okt 28, 2017 10:45 am

Weet niet welk bouwjaar dit is maar rotor en verdelerkap.

Schommelen blijft meestal de luchtmassameter.

Kijk je bougies eens na en zeg mij welke kleur ze hebben of laat een foto zien van je bougies hier zodat ik kan kijken hoe ze eruit zien.
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » za okt 28, 2017 10:59 am

De auto is van de 6de maand van 1993.

De bougies zitten goed verstopt .
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Micha12345 » za okt 28, 2017 11:11 am

Dan heb je geen rotor meer denk ik.Zou de bougies eruit halen om te kijken welk kleurtje ze hebben.

Daaraan kun je meestal zien waar je moet zoeken.
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » za okt 28, 2017 11:19 am

Ga ik zo een poging wagen, weet nu waar ze zitten :mrgreen: onder de grijze kap.
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » zo okt 29, 2017 7:24 am

Hallo,

Gisteren bekende gebeld die automonteur is , bougie eruit gehad niks mis mee, auto loopt ook de meeste tijd gewoon goed.
Daarna de gasklep gereinigd die er al heel schoon uit zag, temperatuurcensor zat ook een nieuwe in zo te zien.
Dat ding op de eerste foto naast dat blauwe, die blauwe weet ik niet of die nieuw was!

Eerst maar weer eens proberen??? denk niet dat het em was omdat alles vrij schoon was!

De Benz wordt trouwens nooit warmer dan 81 a 82 graden.
Zelfs niet als ik een halfuur op de autobaan 130 a 140 heb gereden (dan strak 80 graden) en als je dan de afrit af bent en staat voor een stoplicht loopt de temp niet verder op dan de 81 a 82 graden.

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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Micha12345 » zo okt 29, 2017 7:35 am

Als die moeite heeft met warm worden dan is je thermostaat gaar
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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor w124Benz » zo okt 29, 2017 8:01 am

Kan niet zeggen dat hij moeite heeft met warm worden ?? alleen nooit warmer als de 81 a 82 graden die heeft hij ook constant als je op een 80km weg rijdt ! op autobaan strak 80.

Zouden de toeren zo af en toe ernstig schommelen door de thermostaat ?

Ben al bij meerdere garages wezen vragen en van de temperatuur verteld, zeiden dat dat goed was, maar hun zijn geen 124 specialist.

Meestal rijdt de auto gewoon goed niets aan de hand ??

Zou hij het dan niet de hele tijd moeten doen?

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Re: Toeren schommelen soms

Berichtdoor Vinnievw » zo okt 29, 2017 8:54 am

Nogmaals: hoe is de motorkabelboom er aan toe? Heeft de auto ASR en/of cruise controle?
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