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Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuiten?

Berichtdoor -SK- » di jan 30, 2018 6:11 pm

Nu heb ik een luchtrooster (positie: midden ) voor het dashboard binnen gekregen, maar er zitten nogal veel lelijke krassen op de linkerkant (aan de kant waar het instrumentencluster met de snelheidsmeter etc. zit). Vast en zeker met het uitbouwen gebeurd.

Zijn deze krassen (perfect) weg te krijgen door dit te spuiten met verf?
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Raytheman » di jan 30, 2018 7:05 pm

Denk dat het met acryllak prima lukt. En dan zou ik zijdeglans nemen
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor -SK- » wo jan 31, 2018 12:09 am

Thanks Raytheman voor je idee.
Misschien heeft iemand dit al eens gedaan?

Als we hier eenmaal weten hoe (welke kleur verf en mat of zijdeglans) dit probleem op te lossen, dan wordt het een stuk makkelijker/hogere slaagkans een luchtrooster van de sloop te kopen.

Wat ik al wel heb gezien is dat je voorzichtig moet zijn met opschuren, als je dat überhaupt al moet doen, want dan kan je makkelijk de structuur van het oppervlak weghalen zodat je nooit meer een onzichtbaar eindresultaat kan realiseren.

Iemand een suggestie welke (RAL?)kleur het moet zijn?
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Raytheman » wo jan 31, 2018 8:32 am

opschuren zou ik zeker niet doen. Misschien moet je het zelfs met een viltrollertje opbrengen ivm de structuur.
Het is RAL 9005
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor -SK- » do feb 01, 2018 3:38 pm

Zo, weer een stap verder bij de oplossing.
Ik heb wat geprobeerd.

Hieruit heb ik geleerd dat de verf:
1) Dun moet zijn zodat het makkelijk vloeit i.v.m. de structuur van het oppervlak = spuitverf;
2) MAT moet zijn.

De spuitverf breng je aan door het op een viltroller, spons of een stukje keukenrolpapier (van goede kwaliteit) te spuiten en vervolgens op het oppervlak van het luchtrooster te deppen.

Wel zoek ik nog naar een oplossing om eerst (alleen!) de krassen te vullen, zonder dat de rest van de structuur van het oppervlak veranderd wordt.

En ik zoek nog de definitieve bevestiging van de juiste kleur. Ik had nog een universele spuitbus liggen in de kleur matzwart (geen ralcode erop). Maar dat was te donker.

@Raytheman: Heb je RAL 9005 (=gitzwart) ooit geprobeerd of eens gelezen in documentatie van Mercedes-Benz?
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Raytheman » do feb 01, 2018 6:15 pm

Er zit nogal verschil tussen 30 jaar oud plastic waar nooit wat aan gedaan is en nieuw of onderhouden plastic voor zover je plastic kan onderhouden.
Plastic is een aardolieproduct en kan dus ook met (afgewerkte) olie weer glimmend gemaakt worden. Poets het eerst eens op met een olieproduct en kijk dan nog eens of matzwart nog steeds in de buurt komt. Van origine is het zijdeglans.
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » do feb 01, 2018 6:49 pm

als je hem spuit moet je ze alle 3 spuiten denk ik

Maar heb je al bumperzwart geprobeerd...dat spul wat je met een doekje op zwarte kunststofdelen smeert....daar haal je toch de kleur mee naar boven van verweerde kunststofdelen

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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor -SK- » do feb 01, 2018 8:18 pm

Het gaat niet om plastic. En alle drie luchtroosters spuiten is beslist niet nodig.

Maar om de metalen behuizing. De lamellen die daar inzitten, zijn trouwens in dezelfde kleur en ook van metaal.
De verf was al droog, maar inmiddels is de verf echt goed droog en uitgehard. Het uithardingsproces zal nog wel even doorgaan, maar zal vast en zeker 90%+ voltooid zijn.

Kennelijk is dat erg belangrijk voor hoe de kleur er uitziet, want waar het geverfd is geen kleurverschil meer. NB Alleen waar de krassen zitten heb ik met de verf gedept. Een duidelijke lijn tussen oud en nieuw zou je dan verwachten, maar heus, geen kleurverschil. En dat met universele mat zwart spuitverf. RAL onbekend. Mazzeltje.

Blijven twee vragen over:
1) Waarmee kan je de krassen (metaal wat is weggeschraapt) vullen voor een perfect resultaat;
2) (niet zo belangrijk meer maar wel leuk te weten) Is de RALcode van 'mat zwart' 9005 en zo nee, wat dan dan wel?
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor WillieW124 » do feb 01, 2018 9:42 pm

Gewoon een nieuwe hale bij de dealer, dan heje het weer netjes en originaal, niet beginne te prutse dass toch zonde
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » do feb 01, 2018 11:24 pm

Klopt, Ral 9005 is zwart.

Een goed resultaat voor dit soort "grappen" krijg je met Allgrund van Sudwest, de oplosmiddelhoudende.
Nadeel: Busjes van minimaal 750ml en je zut het moeten verspuiten in dit geval voor kleinere objecten.
Daarvoor heb je thinner of Allgrund verdunner nodig.
Je bent met die Allgrund verzekerd van een goeie hechting. Het is ook in zwart verkrijgbaar.
Het heeft een behoorlijk vullend vermogen dus mogelijk dat je de krassen er mee wegwerkt.
Het heeft een klein beeje glans.
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor JosW124 » vr feb 02, 2018 11:05 am

En wat gebeurd er met de verf als de verwarming voor langere tijd op max. staat?
Kunststof zet uit bij verwarming, gaat de verf dan daar in mee, of bladdert die dan af?

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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Raytheman » vr feb 02, 2018 4:10 pm

effe voor de duidelijkheid; we hebben het toch hierover?
Plastic dus. Heb net even in de schuur gekeken voor de zekerheid :D
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » vr feb 02, 2018 4:36 pm

Dit is geen middenrooster, dus inderdaad plastic. Maar ik heb begrepen dat het over het metalen middenrooster gaat.

Dus even lezen! (Positie midden) staat er.
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Raytheman » vr feb 02, 2018 7:08 pm

O, maar dat had ik wel gelezen hoor. Kan me alleen niet voorstellen dat de zijroosters van plastic worden gemaakt en het middenrooster, waar notabene koude lucht uit komt, van metaal zou zijn. Zal morgen eens effe kijken..
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » vr feb 02, 2018 8:41 pm

het frame is van gespoten aluminium, de verstelbare roosters zijn van plastic
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Re: Is luchtrooster (midden) te repareren door het te spuite

Berichtdoor -SK- » za feb 03, 2018 1:36 am

Zo is het, alleen de verstelbare lamellen zijn van plastic, de rest (het huis met de vaste lamellen) zijn van metaal.
Ik neem het van je aan dat het aluminium is, gewichtbesparend :handgestures-thumbupright:

De puzzel is bijna gekraakt.
Nu zoek ik nog alleen iets om alleen de krassen mee te vullen, zonder dat de originele structuur van het oppervlak verdwijnt.

Zoiets:
(bij dode link zie afbeelding)

Zou dat werken?

Maar dat is Amerikaans. Wat zou het alternatief zijn in Nederland?
Weet iemand iets van 3M of een ander hier bekend merk?
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