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Berichtdoor damo99 » di jan 09, 2018 5:28 pm

Ik zou nieuwe schokdempers en spiraalveren willen plaatsen op mijn 300 diesel automaat van 1986. Weet er iemand hoeveel me dit ongeveer zal gaan kosten? Verschillende prijzen al tegengekomen.
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor JosW124 » di jan 09, 2018 5:37 pm

Ik heb eeb paar weken geleden bij Autodoc 2 nieuwe Sachs schokbrekers gekocht voor €54,-/ stuk, zoals gemonteerd door MB.
Voor veren kan ik je niets adviseren want nooit vervangen, maar er zal wellicht hier iemand met een bevredigend antwoord komen.

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Berichtdoor Rojo124 » di jan 09, 2018 5:38 pm

bel even met Paul van steronderdelen.nl....goede service/prijzen...en je weet gelijk of je de goede hebt.
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor DJS » di jan 09, 2018 10:52 pm

Voorveren van Sachs kosten iets van 35 euro per stuk van Sachs bij Taxiteile. Houd er rekening mee dat je de juiste veren kiest. De veren die je nodig hebt zijn afhankelijk van verschillende factoren. Het juiste onderdeelnummer voor de veren wordt gekozen op basis van: carroserietype, motor/bak-combinatie en opties.
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor damo99 » wo jan 10, 2018 10:38 pm

bedankt alvast voor de info, zijn die onderdelen van sachs even goed als de originele?
Ik kreeg gisteren bericht van mijn garagist dat de schokdempers mij per stuk zo'n 125 euro en de veren zo'n 80 euro per stuk zouden kosten. een serieus verschil wel...
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor damo99 » wo jan 24, 2018 10:15 am

ik heb bij autodoc schokdempers en veren voor de vooras besteld. Alles van sachs. Op 17/1 besteld en gisteren 23/1 ontvangen. 183 euro betaald. Op 3 februari worden ze geplaatst, ben benieuwd.
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Berichtdoor Wouter61636 » wo jan 24, 2018 11:56 am

Ik heb alle schokdempers en veren ook vervangen een klein jaar terug. Ik had een deel bij autodoc en een deel bij Bogijn (ff googlen) besteld. prijzen varieren enorm op internet.
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor damo99 » zo feb 04, 2018 8:28 am

Grote pech !! gisteren dempers en veren vooraan vervangen maar nu staat de auto veel te hoog.
onderdeel 997262 wat staat voor de veren en volgens autodoc zou moeten passen op mijn W124 blijkt niet goed te zijn.
Veren zijn identiek qua lengteen buitendiameter aan de oude. Nieuwe : 444mm lengte, diameter 15,3mm , buitendiameter: 109mm type AB van sachs
matching met de MECEDES-BENZ Saloon (W124) 12.1984-06.1993 109pk benzine-diesel
de diameter van de andere iets goedkopere veren die ook zouden moeten passen is 14,3mm zou dat het verschil zijn??
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Berichtdoor Raytheman » zo feb 04, 2018 8:31 am

Hoe hoog staat de auto nu? Gemeten vanaf de grond tot wielkast? Ik heb ze gisteren ook vervangen en staat nu ook wel wat hoger.
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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Berichtdoor damo99 » zo feb 04, 2018 8:35 am

hij zou meer dan 10cm moeten zakken. Schokdempers staat helemaal boven.. De exacte afmetingen weet ik niet want hij staat nog bij de monteur...Is de jouwe nu gezakt t.o V; gisteren?
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Berichtdoor Raytheman » zo feb 04, 2018 9:22 am

Net even gemeten; alle wielen staan nu op 69 cm.
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor damo99 » zo feb 04, 2018 9:31 am

De mijne veel hoger, ik dacht 78 gisteren. Dus veren te dik. Die mm is er teveel aan. Autodoc verkeerd. Zal andere moeten kopen....is de jouwe gezakt?
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » zo feb 04, 2018 12:10 pm

Hoe heb je de veren vervangen, met een veerspanner?
Of heb je met de wielen van de grond de moeren van de draagarm los gedraaid om meer ruimte te krijgen voor het
verwijderen van de oude en monteren van de nieuwe veer?
Als je het laatste hebt gedaan, de auto met de wielen op de grond, die moeren weer iets losdraaien, dan een paar
meter vooruit en weer achteruit rijden en dan die moeren weer vast draaien,

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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo feb 04, 2018 12:38 pm

Mercedes codeert de originele veren met kleurcodes, daar kun je niet fout mee gaan.
Zijn die niet meer te zien of waren het al geen originele meer dan gewoon een veer met dezelfde staaldikte (de 14,3 of 15,3 mm of welke dikte dan ook dus) als de oude veer en dezelfde spoed van de spiraal als de oude.

Weet niet waarom je de veren ook wilde vervangen (verlaagde/gebroken/enz) maar indien ze nog goed waren, dus niet gebroken of verlaagd oidzou je die weer terug kunnen monteren.

Qua loshalen van de draagarm, let erop dat die met 2 excentrische bouten aan de binnenzijde gemonteerd zit. Dit bepaalt je camber, klein beetje caster en klein beetje de sturing. Nooit zomaar losdraaien zonder te markeren anders kun je hem daarna uit laten lijnen.
De truuk met het loshalen van de draagarm werkt trouwens wel goed aan de achterzijde maar aan de voorzijde niet echt, daar blijft het levensgevaarlijk ivm de overgebleven veerspanning agv de lengte van de veer.
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor Raytheman » zo feb 04, 2018 4:56 pm

ik heb t met deze verenspanners gedaan. Setje is goed betaalbaar en werkt wel zo veilig
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor damo99 » ma feb 05, 2018 6:46 am

1 van de veren was gebroken, daarom opteerde ik om ze beiden te laten vervangen door iemand die er iets zou moeten van kennen. Zou het kunnen dat het door die één mm extra staaldikte komt?
staat wel tien cm te hoog........
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » ma feb 05, 2018 11:14 am

Het ligt volgens mij niet aan de veren.
Diegene (meneer de Haas?) die er iets zou moeten van kennen heeft ze hoogstwaarschijnlijk gewisseld zoals ik beschreef.
Mijn 200D staat nu op de hefbrug met hangende wielen, afstand onderkant wielen tot spatbord is 80 cm.

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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor damo99 » ma feb 05, 2018 11:50 am

hij stond op brug inderdaad, heeft wrslk niet met losse moeren even vooruit en achteruit gereden....
wil zeggen dat de draagarm nu niet meer in de juiste positie staat ?
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Re: vering vooraan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » ma feb 05, 2018 12:12 pm

Dat weet ik niet, een goede uitlijner kan dat beter bepalen ;)

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