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Hoogteverschil

Alles omtrent de carrosserie en de buitenkant, zoals bijv. spuiten, roest, plaatwerk, lassen maar ook spiegels, rubbers en chroom, ruitenwissers etc.

Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Raytheman » zo jan 07, 2018 7:55 pm

Mn 230E staat scheef aan de achterkant; gemeten vanaf de grond tot de schermrand scheelt links en rechts 3 centimeter.
Dat worden waarschijnlijk twee nieuwe chassisveren :D
Weet iemand de kleur voor de standaardveren?
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor RD500sec » zo jan 07, 2018 9:49 pm

Als je nog de originele veren hebt, staat er dicht bij de onderste winding het onderdeelnummer.
Hetzelfde onderdeelnummer kan een rode of blauwe verfstreep hebben om het verschil in lengte aan te geven (tolerantie in productie).
De andere verfstrepen zijn merktekens van de verenfabrikant.
Boven de veren zitten veer rubbers, deze zijn ook inverschillende dikte te krijgen, de dikte wordt aangegeven met noppen aan de rand. 1, 2 of 3 aan de achterkant en 1 t/m 4 voor de voorveren.

Vind je geen onderdeelnummer, kan je de juiste veer bepalen aan de hand van de aanwezige opties in de auto en de verentabel.
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor JosW124 » zo jan 07, 2018 10:33 pm

Beide schokbrekers nog OK?

Jos.
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor RD500sec » ma jan 08, 2018 10:33 am

De meeste sedans hebben standaard stalen veren met schokdempers, zonder niveauregeling.
Deze schokdempers zullen niet voor hoogteverschil zorgen naar mijn idee, tenzij ze krom zijn geraakt door een aanrijding o.i.d.
Bij wagens met niveauregeling zouden de veercilinders of veerbollen verdacht kunnen zijn, maar ook de altijd nog aanwezige stalen veren.
Of simpelweg verschillende veerrubbers in beide gevallen.
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Raytheman » ma jan 08, 2018 10:38 am

Dan denk ik dat ik de rubbers, veren en schokdemper ga vervangen voor de standaard-waarden
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Raytheman » za jan 27, 2018 9:48 am

Inmiddels heb ik aan de achterkant vernieuwd:
Chassisveren,
veerrubbers,
Schokbrekers
remschijven en schoenen
Toch staat de auto nog scheef; links van de grond tot wielkast = 69 cm, rechts 72
Met rijden merk je er niks van en als je t niet weet valt t niet op. Maar ik weet t en irriteer me :D
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor John.M » za jan 27, 2018 11:13 am

Hoe is de staat van het subframeophanging ?
Als 1 van die neuzen verrot is :?
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » za jan 27, 2018 11:36 am

En aan de linker kant hangt de uitlaat, de schuifdakmotor, benzine en remleidingen en de antenne B)

Ik denk dat iedereen wel een paar mm hoogteverschil heeft, je kan een poll aanmaken :lol:

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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor RD500sec » zo jan 28, 2018 1:53 am

Ray heeft het over 3 cm, niet over mm.

Wat John zegt kan, de punten waar het subframe is opgehangen kunnenn slecht zijn of slecht gerepareerd, het is de moeite waard om te onderzoeken.
Hoe staat de auto aan de voorkant? Een gebroken veer voor, zorgt ook voor hoogteverschil achter.
Je meet tot aan de wielkast, zijn deze origineel? Of zijn er al eens nieuwe in gelast? Meet anders ook eens naar de dorpel toe, of naar de stootstrip o.i.d.
Staat de auto op een echt vlakke ondergrond?
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Raytheman » zo jan 28, 2018 10:12 am

Goedemorgen Benzers,

Linksvoor is de veer inderdaad gebroken zag ik gisteren..
ik heb direct twee nieuwe veren en twee nieuwe schokbrekers besteld.
Verder zal ik inderdaad het subframe eens goed bekijken.

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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » zo feb 04, 2018 11:48 am

Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor PeDe » zo feb 04, 2018 4:57 pm

Hoi Ray,

Ik zag je net wegrijden en de voorkant (in ieder geval links) staat erg/te hoog.
Bij mij zaten er een keer verzwaarde (taxi) veren voor gemonteerd.
Toen stond ie ook te hoog........misschien bij jou ook...?
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Raytheman » zo feb 04, 2018 5:00 pm

Gisteren inderdaad de voorkant van nieuwe veren en schokbrekers voorzien. En...het verschil in hoogte is nu achter weg!
Blij mee :D

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Ze zijn wel even lang en zelfde kleurcode als wat er onder zat maar misschien inderdaad net effe te hoog; ik begin met de rubbers te vervangen. Zitten nu 4-punts op en die zijn best dik.
(kan ik mn veerspansetje weer effe gebruiken ;) )
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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Wagenhoogte

Berichtdoor Raytheman » ma feb 05, 2018 7:28 pm

Omdat er wat topics zijn over het vervangen van veren en het effect in wagenhoogte daarop ben ik eens gaan zoeken naar foto's van de W124. Je komt dan veel verlaagde wagens tegen maar toch ook best veel wagens die 'hoog op de poten' staan. Ik heb de fabrieksmaten er eens bij gepakt en daarna een waterpas van een meter op mn dak gelegd en de hoogte gemeten. ik kom dan uit op 1.43 M.
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » ma feb 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Onderwerpen samengevoegd. Niet voor alles wat met hetzelfde onderwerp te maken heeft een nieuw topic aanmaken. Maak over je eigen wagen een logboek aan s.v.p
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor WillieW124 » ma feb 05, 2018 8:07 pm

Dan heye net de verkeerde tekening bijgevoegd ouwe pik :Kerst: , je W124 staat wat aan den hoge kant 3 en een halve centimeter zelfs :violin:
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » ma feb 05, 2018 8:26 pm

Hahaha, Willie Wortel :icon-idea:

Jouw tekening is van een Coupé en die staan wat lager en zijn ook korter dan een Sedan.
En dan heye nog beide types in de gewone en de sportline.
Enz. enz.

mvg
Geert
Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor PeDe » ma feb 05, 2018 8:51 pm

Heeft het ook niet te maken met de grootte (niet origineel) van je velgen?
Dit is toch 16” ? Zet de auto ook automatisch hoger......
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor WillieW124 » ma feb 05, 2018 9:17 pm

Daar heye me mooi tuk Geert Sotzyworst, inderdaad den afbeelding betrof een coupe, dat hak niet gezien, ik hey gelukkig meer afbeeldingen op mijn reportwaar, hierbij een sedan.waarbij ik op moet merken dat ge de afbeelding eerst mot aanklikke alvorens men de hoogtemaat ken aanschouwen.en ik moet konkluderen dat jou W124 sedan nietbte hoog staat maar een milimeter te laag. :Kerst: :violin:
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Re: Hoogteverschil

Berichtdoor Raytheman » di feb 06, 2018 9:10 am

Haha, bijna goed Willie,
jou tekening is van het tweede model (hoogte 143.1).
Mijn tekening is van het eerste model (142.8) Dus de wagen zou 2 mm te hoog zijn :D

De velgenmaat kan inderdaad wel schelen. Is inderdaad 16". Wat is de standaardmaat? 15"?
Inmiddels wel twee nieuwe aanslagrubbers besteld met 1 nop. Kijken wat daar het resultaat van is..
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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