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Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 brabus

Berichtdoor Need4speed » di feb 06, 2018 8:22 pm

Motor 3.6 BRABUS 1991 met 300.000km
Door een benzine geur en slecht koud lopen heb ik na onderzoek volgende dingen preventief vervangen:
-Bougiekabels, bougies, delco en rotor
-Elektrohydraulisches Stellglied benzinedruk regelaar samen met de injectoren.

Benzine geur is weg en hij start meteen maar nog steeds hapert hij bij gas geven en heeft hij weinig vermogen.
Pas bij hoger toerental loopt hij mooi.

Moet deze benzinedruk regelaar aan het schroefje bij geregeld worden? Omdat hij voor meerdere motoren dezelfde is en zo ja op welke manier regelen?
Of hebben jullie andere ideeën?
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Stofzuigerman » di feb 06, 2018 10:55 pm

Benzine druk regelaar moet je niets aan gaan verstellen. Heb verder zelf geen verdere ervaring waar je probleem aan kan liggen.
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » wo feb 07, 2018 6:14 pm

Wat voor type motor ligt in jou Benz ....is deze vergelijkbaar met de m103 (260-300) of de nieuwere m104 ?
maak eens een foto van de motorruimte Harry ?

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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor tegenvoeter » do feb 08, 2018 3:15 am

Hi Harry,
Heeft je auto niet twee brandstofpompen? Een voor lagere toeren en een tweede high-flow voor het snelle werk?
Is het mogelijk dat de eerste niet voldoende flow heeft en dat bij hogere toeren de tweede (die wel goed is) de klacht laat verdwijnen omdat er dan voldoende brandstof wordt geleverd?
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Need4speed » do feb 08, 2018 12:15 pm

Een foto van mijn motor heb ik via de admin laten plaatsen bij mijn topic even voorstellen
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Need4speed » do feb 08, 2018 12:19 pm

Ivm met de andere dingen die jullie aanhalen.
De benzinedruk regelaar is inderdaad een nieuwe en dus zonder verdere zekerheid blijf ik ook liever af van de regelschroef.
De andere dingen ga ik per gelegenheid nakijken wanneer het niet meer zo koud is want mijn G past niet in de garage
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » do feb 08, 2018 2:44 pm

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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » do feb 08, 2018 3:48 pm

netjes gedaan Lex!
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Vlim » do feb 08, 2018 4:19 pm

Dit is een M103 die met old school tuning is verbeterd. Nokkenas, zuigers, krukas veranderd. Handmatig gestelde kleppen en gepolijste in en uitlaatkleppen.

Elektrisch en qua inspuiting verder gelijk aan de M103.

Ik heb jaren geleden een 3.6 in een W126 260SE ingebouwd. Alleen het blok en de oliekoeler vervangen. Verder niets.
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » do feb 08, 2018 7:41 pm

Die groene Ezl-Kat weerstand knop moet op S staan Harry......ik denk dat hij niet vlotter gaat rijden met die knop op S maar toch staat hij niet goed....klein stukje uittrekken/verdraaien/induwen.

ik weet wel dat je extra veel slijtage binnenin de verdeelkap krijgt als hij niet goed staat.

wat is nou nog het probleem ?...stotteren/inhouden/uitvallen ? ontstekingsdelen zijn vervangen door welk merk onderdelen ?...goede bougies ?

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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » do feb 08, 2018 7:48 pm

En wat staat er op dat rode plaatje (op verdeelkap)...iets over de ontsteking ?
Ja het blijft denk ik een motor met aparte instellingen.

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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Stofzuigerman » do feb 08, 2018 10:32 pm

Weet niet of deze pagina bekend is maar deze man legt mogelijke M103 problemen uit:

http://artisanexcite.blogspot.nl/2013/1 ... ng-me.html
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Vlim » vr feb 09, 2018 12:48 am

Begin eens met CO afstellen en kleppen stellen.
Kijk dan verder.
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » vr feb 09, 2018 6:27 pm

Ja Paul als de Engelse taal geen probleem is dan is deze site een aanrader om problemen te herkennen bij de M103 maar zeker ook de M102 motoren.

http://artisanexcite.blogspot.nl/2013/1 ... ng-me.html

Alleen wordt hier het Duty Cycle afgestelt op 50%.....dan moet je een multimeter hebben met (Duty Cycle %%%%% instelling)....maar met een gewone multimeter stel je hem af op 6,5/7 volt dan zit je meestal goed.

Van de EHA zou ik afblijven...ik heb hem wel eens iets rijker gezet maar kon geen verschil merken.....maar toch beweren de echte cracks op het WorldBenz forum dat de EHA na vele jaren vervuiling 1/4 slag rijker moet worden afgestelt.

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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » za feb 10, 2018 4:47 pm

Ja daar staat iets over de ontsteking he ! Richard......H6DC waarschijnlijk Bosch bougies lees ik...... maar Harry reageert niet meer Haha

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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Need4speed » ma feb 12, 2018 11:57 am

Sorry voor de late reactie maar ik kreeg geen melding van nieuwe reacties....
Ik heb er nu een paar dagen mee gereden en hij loopt al veel beter.
Die groene knop zal ik zo meteen even bekijken en juist zetten.
De bougies en dergelijke zijn de juiste volgens voorgeschreven.
Morgen ga ik hem binnen brengen bij het Bosch centrum hier vlakbij voor de af regeling en eventuele controle. Ik hou jullie op de hoogte
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Need4speed » do feb 22, 2018 12:41 pm

Even een update :
Bij het afregelen van de co reageerde hij wisselend
Toen hebben ze een rook test gedaan en hebben ze gebarsten rubber darmen opgemerkt. Deze zijn nu in bestelling en dus even afwachten wat dit als resultaat gaat geven..... Wordt vervolgd
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Need4speed » di feb 27, 2018 1:38 pm

Na vervangen van een rubberen verbinding onder de lucht filter en injectie kop loopt hij beter, zachter maar toch houd hij soms in en krijg ik niet het volle vermogen.
Volgens de garage is de lambda waarde perfect en de co vrij laag.
Toch krijgen ze bij het rijker zetten de co waarde niet hoger en weet hij niet meteen de oorzaak.
Is er iemand met enige kennis dicht bij mij?
Limburg of Brabant?
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Jurjen S » do maart 01, 2018 11:07 am

Misschien pakt ie toch nog ergens valse lucht?
Met een hamer past alles.
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Re: Benzinedruk regelaar vervangen en injectoren 300E 3.6 br

Berichtdoor Need4speed » do maart 01, 2018 11:15 am

De rubber is vervangen en hij loopt inderdaad al beter.
De lambda waarde zou goed zijn en de co ook.
Toch merk ik dat hij af en toe niet vlot reageert en zich in houd.
Uiteindelijk nog geprobeerd om hem wat rijker af te regelen maar de co waarde bleef dezelfde en kon niet hoger geregeld worden....
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