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Om603 gloei relais probleem. : Diesel Specifiek

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Om603 gloei relais probleem.

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Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor w126560td » za sep 15, 2018 12:29 am

Mijn gloei relais werkt heel wisselvallig.

Soms gloeit die wel en soms niet dan hoor ik hem gelijk terug klikken.


Tak geluidje en hij gloeid, Bij tak + tik slaat de gloei relais terug en hij gloeid niet.

Soms doet die het dagen goed en soms moet ik 10 x kontact aan uit zetten zodat de gloei relais aanslaat en soms wilt die helemaal niks doen dan haal ik hem uitelkaar en druk ik met de hand de gloei relais in de gloeistand en houd hem dan even vast zodat die gloeit en dan starten.

De gloei relais ziet er nog nieuw uit van binnen en het lijkt er toch op dat deze kapot is, heeft iemand een soort gelijke probleem gehad?

Zijn deze gloei relais te repareren?
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » za sep 15, 2018 8:36 am

Wees verstandig en koop een nieuw gloeirelais!
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Hulzie » za sep 15, 2018 11:40 am

Een goede gebruikte betaalde ik op de sloop 3 jaar geleden 35 euro voor, getest en wel.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Rob Hackert » za sep 15, 2018 4:11 pm

tweedehands kan natuurlijk ook en is goedkoper.... maar er is niets zo erg als je naar je Mercedes loopt en denkt: doet ie het of doet ie het niet.... en het probleem met jouw gloeirelais wordt alleen maar erger, niet beter!

ik heb hetzelfde gehad met mijn 200D en na een nieuw relais al jaren geen problemen meer!

maar aan jou de keus uiteraard.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » za sep 15, 2018 4:39 pm

Neem de temperatuursensor ook mee in het verhaal, die bepaald mede de gloeitijd.
Als die defect of in de war is, kan het gloeirelais vreemd/kort reageren.

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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Ducaton » zo sep 16, 2018 7:53 am

pb
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor w126560td » zo sep 16, 2018 11:53 pm

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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Hulzie » ma sep 17, 2018 7:03 am

Dan heb je mogelijk meer niet voor elkaar, dat dat stekkertje niet past, verteld mij dat je niet het juiste relais hebt, en er mogelijk zomaar een relais op is gedrukt dat werkt.

Maar je diesel moet exact het juiste relais hebben, 0,2 volt aan spannings- verschil zit erin, ook in je gloeispiralen, zo kan een verkeerd relais dat 0,2 v teveel spanning afgeeft tijdelijk wel werken op korte termijn je gloeispiralen op blazen.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor w126560td » di sep 18, 2018 12:40 am

Deze relais zit er al twee jaar op en vertoond sind 1 jaar problemen. Ik zal toch een nieuwe moeten nemen. Buiten dat die 0.2 volt moet zijn zou ik ook ergens anders op moeten letten. Hier worden gloei relais van merk HUCCO verkocht nieuw heeft iemand hier ervaring mee. Orgineel is niet te verkijgen nieuw wel tweedehands.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Hulzie » di sep 18, 2018 6:20 am

Een goede tweedehands is net zo goed als nieuw en kost maar een fractie, het relais moet op je stekker passen en bij je gloeirelais horen.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Ducaton » di sep 18, 2018 6:29 am

welk nummer van relais heb je nodig dan ?
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor Hulzie » di sep 18, 2018 6:46 am

Dat is nu het grote probleem nu er niet de juiste op zat. Wanneer je 1 gloei spiraal eruit draait en die meeneemt, kan men het zien aan een gloeispiraal, daar staat de voltage op, en daar gaat het om, welke je moet hebben.
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Berichtdoor w126560td » di sep 18, 2018 11:41 am

Ik weet dat er 0.2 volt staat op de gloeiplugs
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Berichtdoor Hulzie » di sep 18, 2018 11:46 am

11, nogwat volt moet erop staan
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Berichtdoor Ducaton » di sep 18, 2018 4:15 pm

ik heb er nog een in de aanbieding met nr 007-545-16-32 voor een 6 cilinder , als het wat is stuur maar een pb.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor -SK- » za sep 29, 2018 5:12 pm

Ja, electrisch gedeelte contactslot heb ik ooit eens vervangen bij mijn 250D.
Achteraf niet nodig geweest, maar dat wist ik toen nog niet (trial and error). Maar duidelijk verschil was te zien (slijtage), dus is het nu voor jaren weer fris. Zoek in EPC welk onderdeel je nodig hebt. De klus is in principe niet moeilijk. Maar ik weet nog dat het wel pielen was omdat je er zo slecht bij kan komen. Dus lag ik op mijn rug op de bestuurdersstoel en mijn hoofd onder het dashboard, geen lekkere houding...

Jij mag in Turkije helemaal geen tweedehands auto-onderdelen toegestuurd krijgen?
Is er wel iets anders, bijvoorbeeld een oude radio of versterker, wat je toegestuurd mag krijgen?
Daar valt vast wel een relais in te proppen. Op röntgen valt het dan niet op schat ik zo in.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor w126560td » za sep 29, 2018 5:38 pm

Ik kan hier verschillende merken contactslot sockets verkrijgen van febi meyle en BTAP GERMANY

Deze wel allemaal voor W124 bij somiige staat ook W126

Aangezien mijn auto een W126 past dit. Is het contactslot socket hetzelfde bij een W124 en W126
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor RD500sec » za sep 29, 2018 6:24 pm

Je vraag is moeilijk te beantwoorden, er is een W124 TD motor in je W126 benzine geplaatst, het contactslot zal aangepast zijn naar diesel, of afkomstig zijn van een W126 (of (ten dele) een W124) diesel.

Aan de massadraad die nu van de sensor naar de accu loopt, kun je afleiden dat er ergens een slechte massa is,mogelijk van het blok naar de carrosserie.
Overigens heeft het blok meerdere temperatuursensoren, niet alleen voor de temperatuurmeter, maar ook voor het sturen van de fan voor de airco.
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Re: Om603 gloei relais probleem.

Berichtdoor w126560td » za sep 29, 2018 7:15 pm

Het klopt dat mijn motor een massa probleem heeft want mijn temp sensor krijgt ook geen massa via het blok heb hier een appart kabeltje voor getrokken en deze op de accu aangesloten.

Hoe zal ik te werk moeten gaan om een goede massa te krijgen op mijn blok.

Het zou best kunnen dat mijn relais door slechte massa niet goed schakeld.

Ik weet dat er ergens tussen mijn motor versnellingsbak een dikke massa kabel zit.

Waar zou ik verder op moeten letten.

Kan ik de relais via het 4 pollige stekertje direkt aansturen via kabels naar mijn accu om deze te testen.

(Evt kleuren van deze kabels waarvoor deze dienen)
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