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500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor TBREEN » zo mei 19, 2019 8:57 am

Ik heb een 500E die warmloopt. bj 1992
Na grondige analyse van mijn monteur blijkt er een koppakking lek te zijn...
Hij heeft dit uitgevoerd met de cilinderkop lekkage tester kit.
ik heb echter geen koelvloeistof in de olie of witte rook. De auto rijd en start zeer goed.
Wel een koelvloeistof verbruik. zeer vreemd waar die koelvloeistof dan naartoe gaat...

Dit is geen goed nieuws en een dure herstelling.
Volgens hem moet de motor uitgebouwd om deze koppakkingen te vervangen
hij zag dit ook niet zitten om eraan te beginnen.

Ik zou graag enkele adressen krijgen van monteurs die echt thuis zijn in de M119 motor en techniek. Een specialist dus.

Ik ben woonachtig in Antwerpen. Alle tips welkom.
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500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Hakie » ma mei 20, 2019 4:36 pm

De M119, jouw motor is bijna bulletproof wat de koppakking betreft. Het komt zeer zelden voor dat deze gaat lekken.
Vertel eens wat meer over het warmlopen? Bij welke omstandigheden? Hoe hoog wordt de temperatuur? Airco aan of uit?
Nog een belangrijkste: HOOR je de visco koppeling in-komen?

Edit: koelvloeistof gebruik miste ik. Hoe hoog is dat verbruik? Je koelvloeistof tank mag nl niet te vol zitten.
Is de dikke koelvloeistof slang op de radiator hard of zacht? (Bij goed opgewarmde motor).
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor TBREEN » ma mei 20, 2019 5:14 pm

De visco is nieuw origineel Mercedes. en doet wat hij moet doen
de Behrco radiator staat datum op 2007
Mijn monteur heeft onder de thermostaat een plaatje geplaatst zodat er altijd 100% doorstroming is over de motor.

bij autosnelweg rijden gaat de temperatuur tot de eerste streep boven de 80° indicatie
bij stadsrijden gaat de temperatuur even boven de 2e streep heen.
bij stilstand in mijn garage in D met voet op rem en airco aan gaat de temp een stuk boven de 2e streep heen na de 80 indicatie (zie foto)
Dan pas schakelen de electrische ventilo's en vrij snel gaat de temperatuur terug naar de 2e streep boven 80°
de ventilo's schakelen dan terug uit.

Het koelvloeistof verhaal moet ik verder uitwerken. Want de monteur had de koelvloeistof eruit gezogen met een stofzuiger. ik heb na de afhaling vd auto na 100km het reservoir moeten bijvullen was nagenoeg leeg (vol vertrokken)
na opvulling terug gereden en was terug 2cm gezakt. Sindsdien niet meer gereden. Ik zal dit terug vullen en nog eens een testrit maken.
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Hakie » ma mei 20, 2019 10:12 pm

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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Blauwe Hap » ma mei 20, 2019 10:24 pm

Volgens mij zou de eerste fan moeten schakelen bij 100-105 graden, de tweede bij 110. Stationair met airco aan draait de eerste al vrijsnel. Je oliedruk meter staat wel heel laag??? Nieuwe visco's altijd testen (fan vastzetten met stukje ducktape, warmdraaien en kijken wanneer en of ie aanslaat). Succes
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Blauwe Hap » ma mei 20, 2019 10:25 pm

oh, Hakie was sneller....
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Hakie » ma mei 20, 2019 10:31 pm

Dat duct tape is wel een goeie. Ga ik proberen bij de E500. Ik denk dat het tape heel blijft.

Hier is nog wat leesvoer:

https://www.500eboard.co/forums/index.p ... mps.10600/
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » di mei 21, 2019 6:27 am

Met de weersomstandigheden van de laatste weken hoort die motor niet boven de 90grC uit te komen. PUNT. Die wijzer staat gewoon te hoog. Z'n thermostaat blijft al open staan, en nog te warm.

Een monteur (!) heeft een lektest uitgevoerd. Wordt aan die monter of aan die test getwijfeld, of aan beiden?

Er zijn nog meer testen: compressielektest, antivries in de uitlaatgassen etc etc. Harde slangen kan enkel iemand met ervaring als indicatie aanhouden, ik heb niet de indruk dat u die ervaring heeft.

U begint uw verhaal met dat u een specialist zoekt, daaruit maak ik op dat u zelf niet over de juiste materialen beschikt, en misschien ook niet over voldoende kennis. Dan zou mijn advies staan bij twijfel over de 1e diagnose: Laat ergens een 2e uitvoeren en ga niet zelf aan het prutsen. Het wordt een onsamenhangend verhaal.
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Jurjen S » vr mei 24, 2019 9:52 am

Vanuit Antwerpen niet bepaald om de hoek. Maar ik zou Cor de Jong van Mercedes klassieker service eens bellen als ik jou was.
Met een hamer past alles.
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Re: 500E warmloper. koppakking lek

Berichtdoor Hulzie » vr mei 24, 2019 11:28 am

Ook niet naast de deur, maar wel goed, mijn buurman. https://stolkbalkbrug.nl/
S 430 V8 automaat.


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