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Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan : Interieur

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Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

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Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » ma jul 29, 2019 7:17 pm

Goedemiddag mede Mercedes liefhebbers, ik zal me eerst even
Voorstellen: mijn naam is Harm en sinds april bezit ik een W124 230E
Van 1985.
De auto is redelijk goed maar door o.a ruim 6 jaar stil te hebben gestaan
Zijn er wel wat storingen en achterstallig onderhoudt.
Mijn vraag op dit moment is: als ik afsla naar links of naar rechts dan
Knipperen alle 4 de lampen en ook op het dashboard branden beide
Pijltjes.
Wat ik al gedaan heb;
Nieuwe combirelais,
Andere ‘kapotte lamp’ relais ( naast combirelais)
Nieuwe alarmschakelaar,
Andere combihendel,
Later ingebouwde afstandsbediening er tussen uitgehaald,
Later achter gebouwde trekhaak bedrading verwijderd,
Nieuwe zekeringen,
Nieuwe lampjes,
Massa onder bij versnellingspook los gehad en met vaseline ingevet.
Dit probleem is in een keer ontstaan ( was niet zo) en is niet meer weggegaan.
Ik heb veel op dit forum gelezen Mercedes specialisten voor oude Mercedessen gebeld en
Probleem voorgelegd, maar tot op heden is het probleem nog precies hetzelfde.

Is er iemand die dit herkend? Of mij verder kan helpen dan graag!

Groet, Harm
Harm K
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Roepnaam:
Type wagen: 230E
Bouwjaar: 1985
Automaat: Ja
LPG: Ja


Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » di jul 30, 2019 10:46 am

Beste Harm, allereerst welkom!

Uit je verhaal is niet 1 2 3 te concluderen waar de fout zit. Er kan nog een alarm gemonteerd zijn of is stomtoevallig
de andere kombihendel ook stuk. In het meest nare scenario is er kortsluiting geweest met als gevolg gesmolten
draadisolatie waardoor er nu koperkernen van draden contact maken.

Begin eens met het volgende:
Onder het stuur, achter de dashboardplaat, zit de 14 pins multistekker voor de combihendel, trek die stekker er uit.
Dan wurm je de contrastekker los en zie je dat deze genummerde busjes heeft.
Haal nu de pluskabel van de accu los en bevestig een lange draad aan de pluspool (pluskabel los laten!).
Steek die draad (met 12V) beurtelings in het busje met nr 6 (= links) en nr 8 (= rechts).
Wat brand er dan wel, of niet?
Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
Shostakovich124
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LPG: Nee


Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » di jul 30, 2019 2:22 pm

Bedankt voor het meedenken ik ga hiermee aan de slag!
Kan wel een aantal dagen duren gezien mijn vrouw
Morgen wordt geopereerd.
Overigens zit er aan de bestuurdersstoel wel een zwart
kastje met een soort isolatie erom heen, heeft die
soms met het alarm te maken?

Ik meld mij weer alvast bedankt voor het meedenken!

Groet, Harm
Harm K
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Automaat: Ja
LPG: Ja


Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » za aug 03, 2019 3:15 pm

Hallo Shostakovich 124,

Vandaag stroom gezet op de punten 6 en daarna 8, precies op de manier
zoals je uitgelegd had.
De uitkomst is dat op beide punten alle knipperlichten branden
zonder te knipperen, er wordt dus geen onderscheidt gemaakt
tussen links of rechts!

Groet, Harm
Harm K
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Automaat: Ja
LPG: Ja


Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » za aug 03, 2019 3:18 pm

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Hallo RD500sec,

Hierbij de foto van het betreffende kastje

Groet, Harm
Harm K
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » zo aug 04, 2019 11:16 am

Bijlagen
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Laatst bijgewerkt door Shostakovich124 op ma aug 05, 2019 9:14 am, in totaal 1 keer bewerkt.
Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » zo aug 04, 2019 1:13 pm

Hallo RD500sec,

Ik heb de stekker van het zwarte kastje losgehaald en
de knipperlichten geprobeerd, maar het probleem
Blijft hetzelfde.

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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » zo aug 04, 2019 1:16 pm

Hallo Shostakovich,

Bedankt voor de reactie! Ik zal de door jou genoemde
punten controleren en hier melden wat het resultaat is.

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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » ma aug 05, 2019 10:10 am

Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » ma aug 05, 2019 12:25 pm

Hoe bedoel je test de knippers zonder alarmlichtschakelaar?

Andere storingen zijn lampje op dashboard (lampcontrole) brandt, maar
dit was al zo toen ik hem kocht.
Elektrisch schuif/kantel dak werkt niet.
Voor de rest werkt alles naar behoren.

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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » ma aug 05, 2019 12:31 pm

Andere storingen waren van de motor die niet goed liep
maar dat is inmiddels verholpen
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » ma aug 05, 2019 12:34 pm

Eerst even de alarmlicht schakelaar uit z'n voetje trekken.
Dan op contact of met draaiende motor met de combihendel de knipperlichten bedienen.
Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » ma aug 05, 2019 1:23 pm

Hallo, net alarmlicht schakelaar eruit gehaald en
met de combihendel naar links en rechts bewogen
nu knippert of brandt er niets
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » ma aug 05, 2019 1:25 pm

De andere zaken die je hiervoor beschreef zal ik morgenochtend
gaan controleren
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » di aug 06, 2019 10:00 am

EUREKA het knipperlichtprobleem is opgelost

Het bleek een kortsluiting te zijn onder de achterbank
van de nog aangesloten draden van de achteraf ingebouwde
afstandsbediening voor de portiersloten.

Schostakovich hartelijk bedankt voor het wijzen hierop!
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Blauwe Hap » di aug 06, 2019 8:50 pm

Zo, dat had een mooie fik kunnen worden onder de achterbank! Was die aansluiting niet gezekerd, ongelofelijk.
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Harm K » vr aug 16, 2019 4:31 pm

Ja ik ben blij dat die rommel eruit is, ik hou
er sowieso van dat de auto origineel is in ieder geval
zo veel als mogelijk!

Ik ben tevens erg blij dat er niets ergs gebeurd is, zou mijn wagen niet
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Re: Alle knipperlichten knipperen tijdens afslaan

Berichtdoor Micha12345 » vr aug 16, 2019 6:51 pm

Goed dat die meuk eruit is.Laatste tijd branden er al genoeg wagens af door dit+Oude brandstofleidingen
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