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E10

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » di sep 17, 2019 8:28 am

Op diverse internetflora staat informatie over het gebruik van E10 op langere termijn. Er zou schade optreden op langere aan de leidingen. Zelf heb ik een 230TE uit 6-1992 en mij is inmiddels niet meer duidelijk hoe het precies. Wat doen jullie?
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Jurjen S » di sep 17, 2019 10:10 am

98 of 102 tanken zo lang dat nog te krijgen is........... Dat is wat ik doe.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » wo sep 18, 2019 6:03 am

Ik ook, maar het overdreven of noodzaak?
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » wo sep 18, 2019 6:50 am

V-power van Shell zou momenteel voor onze oude motoren het beste zijn.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor 230E » wo sep 18, 2019 10:17 am

Als je W124 af fabriek met Katalysator is uitgerust; kan er E10 getankt worden.
een zgn RÜF version, (met of zonder later ingebouwde KAT) en versies zonder KAT kunnen géén E10 drinken.

in alle gevallen minstens Euro-95
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor ScareMercy » wo sep 18, 2019 11:50 am

Ze kunnen het allemaal, de vraag is alleen hoelang het duurt voordat je de eerste stukken hebt.
Het brandstof systeem van een auto uitgevoerd vanuit de fabriek met katalysator of zonder katalysator is gelijk, dus ik begrijp niet waarom dit zo in de lijsten staat aangegeven.

Onder andere je EHA, spinnenkop, brandstofpomp en slangen zijn je dankbaar als je het zo min mogelijk tankt ;)
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » do sep 19, 2019 6:10 am

Voor mij was het ook onduidelijk allemaal met de benzine met en zonder katalysator mijn wagen stotterde heel erg en hield in en op jullie advies ben ik 98 gaan tanken en het stotteren is over.

Die van jou is van 92 en heeft een katalysator neem ik aan en zou het moeten doen op E10 volgens het boekje.

Als ik het goed begrepen heb mag er geen 98 in i.v.m. de katalysator.

Heb je ook een benzine schakelaar onder de motorkap even kijken of hij op de juiste stand staat ;)
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Ton200TE » do sep 19, 2019 7:31 pm

Op de vraag aan BP hoe het nu precies zit met hun brandstoffen heb ik ooit het volgende antwoord gekregen:

Nieuws,. vanuit BP.

Hartelijk dank voor uw vraag en interesse in onze Ultimate 98 brandstof.

BP levert twee soorten benzine: Euro 95 en Ultimate 98.
De twee belangrijkste verschillen tussen deze benzines zijn het octaan getal (RON) en het ethanol gehalte.
De Euro95 van BP bevat 5% Ethanol. Het octaangetal (RON) van deze benzine is 95
De Ultimate 98 van BP bevat geen ethanol en heeft een octaangetal (RON) van 98.
De Ultimate 98 benzine is ontwikkeld voor veeleisende high-performance motoren (Turbo charged, verhoogde compressie verhouding) maar ook voor oudere motoren met hoog vermogen die ontwikkeld waren voor loodhoudende benzine. (Deze hadden een RON van 98).

BP Ultimate 98 is dus zeker geschikt voor uw voertuig.
euro 95 en 98 hebben bij ons ook een E5 sticker.
Dit komt doordat de 95 maximaal 5% ethanol bevat en voorlopig nog geen 10%.

De 98 bevat geen ethanol en dit blijft voorlopig ook zo. Maar vanwege de regelgeving en vanwege het feit dat er geen E0 stickers beschikbaar zijn is er besloten om er voorlopig E5 stickers op te plakken.


BP Ultimate 98 is 0% ethanol, maar je moet dan dacht ik wel de weerstand omzetten naar RON98.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor verkuilm » do sep 19, 2019 7:52 pm

Een auto met katalysator mag prima op 98 dat heeft er niet zoveel mee van doen.
Mijne heeft een M111 motor volgens boekje 95. 98 kan dan ook maar niet nodig
Ik maak me ook geen zorgen over de ethanol dit type blok is tot 2003 gebruikt.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor JosW124 » vr sep 20, 2019 5:47 am

"De 98 bevat geen ethanol en dit blijft voorlopig ook zo. Maar vanwege de regelgeving en vanwege het feit dat er geen E0 stickers beschikbaar zijn is er besloten om er voorlopig E5 stickers op te plakken."

Da's dan ook weer lekker duidelijk!
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » vr sep 20, 2019 9:31 pm

Ja ze maken er wat van je ziet door de bomen je Mercedes niet meer :lol:
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Ton200TE » za sep 21, 2019 6:58 am

Deze link is misschien nog duidelijker: https://www.e10check.nl/auto/mercedes-benz/
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Raytheman » za sep 21, 2019 9:26 am

Sinds ik een nieuwe eha heb gekocht a 400 euro tank ik alleen nog bp ultimate.
ik vind t moeilijk om te zeggen, maar ik doe t toch: aluminium
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » di sep 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Wat is dat?
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Jurjen S » di sep 24, 2019 3:59 pm

Met een hamer past alles.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Jurjen S » di sep 24, 2019 4:01 pm

Met een hamer past alles.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » di okt 01, 2019 4:10 am

Ik heb even de link aangeklikt van Ton en daar staat in het rechtse rijtje niet geschikt o.a. ook een Mercedes met carburateur.

En die heb ik heb geen injectie wat moet je dan tanken ik begreep dat de E5 gaat verdwijnen (98 benzine)
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Blauwe Hap » di okt 01, 2019 12:26 pm

Nico, met carb heb je geen 3weg kat en mag je geen E10 tanken, ongeacht het octaan gehalte. E5/E10/E85/B7/B10/B100 (E= benzine, B=diesel) geeft percentage bio-ethanol aan in de brandstof. Octaangehalte van benzine kan varieren van 90 tot 105 (ROZ, Research Methode), dit heeft niets te maken met het bio-ethanolgehalte. In NL meest voorkomend is Euro95 en Super98, beide zijn "Super"benzine, benzine met octaan lager dan 95 heet "Normaal", dit kan je in Duitsland nog vinden. Onafhankelijk van het octaangehalte kan benzine ethanolvrij ("E0"), E5 als E10 zijn!!! Jouw 200E zonder kat moet volgens MB spec eigenlijk loodhoudende Super98 hebben maar loodvrije Euro95 of Super98 (ontstekingsknop op "S") kan ook, zolang er maar niet meer dan 5% ethanol in zit.
Dus: Als je E5 benzine tankt zit je altijd goed, nooit E10!
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http://w126club.nl/download/file.php?id ... 6a5c67ee54
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor Blauwe Hap » di okt 01, 2019 12:27 pm

E5 blijft in NL bij de meeste pompen gewoon verkrijgbaar, naast E10.
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Re: E10

Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » di okt 01, 2019 7:18 pm

https://competition102.com

Nog altijd verkrijgbaar :lol:
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