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Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » za okt 12, 2019 6:25 pm

Laats is mijn cilinderkop kapot gegaan en ik ben toe aan een nieuwe.

Op mijn oude cilinderkop zit geen nummer vermeld deze is verwijderd.

Ik heb nu een splinternieuwe kop gevonden alleen ik weet niet of deze past.

Is een kop van een turbo en geen turbo gelijk???

Ik zie eigenlijk twee soorten koppen. Eentje met ingeslepen oliekanaal met 2 extra gaatjes, en een andere kop is zonder die ingeslepen oliekanaal (zie foto's). Bij mij zat er een zonder ingeslepen oliekanaal. Is dit de juiste kop of is deze omgebouwd van non turbo naar turbo model.

Graag zou ik willen weten welke kop er op mijn auto hoort om603.960 bj 1986.

Cilinderkop nummer ...?

Bovenste kop heb ik gevonden verkoper geeft aan dat deze van een om603 turbo is. Deze kop komt visueel ook overeen met mijn eigen kop.


Ik heb even in de manuel gekeken wat ik zelf kon opmaken is dat de brandkamers van een turbo 15mm zijn en non turbo 14mm

Ik las ook dat de extra ingvrezen oliekanaal een update was.

Is de koppakking van een non turbo hetzelfde als turbo???
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » di okt 15, 2019 4:54 am

Lijkt me sterk dat niemand hierover info heeft :D
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » di okt 15, 2019 10:42 am

Kies maar...

Maar wat heb je gedaan dat die oude kop niet meer bruikbaar is? om603 kop.JPG
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor -SK- » di okt 15, 2019 11:18 am

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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor -SK- » di okt 15, 2019 11:33 am

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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » di okt 15, 2019 3:56 pm

Sk bedankt voor je reactie. Hoe is mijn cilinderkop kapot gegaan. Ongeveer 3 jaar geleden heb ik mijn motor compleet gereviceerd.

Ik woon in turkije en hier heb je heel veel neppe olie en antifreeze

Schijnt dat ik telkens neppe antifreeze erin heb gegooid. Samenstelling water zout en kleurstof. Zout heeft mijn cilinderkop opgevreten.

Olie koeler is dik in orde heb er een inzitten van van berh w140 600sel v12

Olie gebruik ik van het merk castrol rx turbomax 20w50 wegens warm klimaat.

Koppakking heb ik van victor reinz gekocht elring was op ik neem aan dat de kwalitijd ongeveer hetzelfde is anders hoor ik het wel.

Cilinderkop heb ik splinternieuw gekocht voor 700 euro stond nog ergens in een loods. Cilinderkop is wel oud model.

Morgen gaan we de auto weer inelkaar zettten. Heb ook gelijk 6x verstuivers laten testen en afstellen.
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » di okt 15, 2019 4:09 pm

Als ik mijn koppakking op mij cilinderkop zet dan zie ik dat mijn koppakking meer water kanalen heeft dan mijn cilinderkop. Dit was bij mijn oude pakking en cilinderkop ook op dezelfde manier. Is dit gebruikelijk dat er meer kanalen zitten op een koppakking of hoort dit niet..? Oude pakking was elring nieuwe is van victor reinz
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » di okt 15, 2019 4:19 pm

Zouten en aluminium gaan inderdaad niet samen. Komt direct de volgende vraag op: waterpomp, thermostaathuis (=aluminium behuizing), radiateur, kachelradiator en kachelleidingen zijn ook aluminium. Alles naar z'n grootje dus?
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » di okt 15, 2019 8:07 pm

Yep
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » do okt 17, 2019 5:13 am

Gisteren nieuwe kop erop gezet. Motor loopt prima. Echter er is wel een complicatie. Auto lekt lucht via de brandkamer chamber. Dit is alleen bij de achterste cilinder. Wat kan ik er tegen doen. Hij lekt best hevig. Brandkamers zijn schoon gemaakt en met speciaal gereedschap vast gedraaid. Revisie bedrijf heeft geadviceerd om locktite te gebruiken is dit een opties
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » do okt 17, 2019 6:43 am

Hoe bedoel je 'lekt lucht via de brandkamer chamber'? Ik begrijp die zo niet helemaal, verliest hij compressie langs de voorkamer?
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » do okt 17, 2019 2:11 pm

Idd hij lekt via de voorkamers
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » za nov 02, 2019 1:55 pm

Update

Het lekken via de voorkamers is van zelf gestopt. Auto loopt verder prima.

Ik las ergens dat de koppakking van een turbo model anders is dan een non turbo model. Had iets te maken met stalen rand op de koppakking.

Ik ben er niet zeker van of ik nu de juistr pakking erop heb zitten. Op het pakkingset stond 603 geschreven met de hand. Heb de orginele codes niet gecontroleerd. Ik heb ook gelezen dat de turbo pakking op de non turbo mag gebruikt worden maar niet andersom. Turken hier in turkije zijn een beetje slordig met onderdelen dus nu weet ik niet wat voor koppakking erop zit. Kan het kwaad als er een non turbo pakking op zit
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor johnny5 » za nov 02, 2019 3:07 pm

pakking met stalrn tanden erin dat kan je gezien hebben , en anders kom je er snel genoeg achter ,dan is de pakking snel weg gebrand

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Waar zitten die stalen tanden... of bedoel je randen dan heb ik ze wel gezien? Ik probeer op geheugen te analiseren of ik wel de goede pakking heb gebruikt. Hieronder een foto van de pakking wat ik denk te gebruikt hebben. Deze komponeneten zaten erbij. Victor reinz.

Kan iemand mij uigebreidere info geven over het verschil en waar dat percies zit...?

Er wordt oomschreven: The cylinder gasket for the turbo-engines has stainless steel insert around the combustion chambers (arrow)

Wordt hier de de zilver kleurige omranding bedoeld die boven de zuigers komt.. of dat metaal stripje aan de voorkant?

Er zat geen pakkingen bij voor de bovenste turbo buis (aliminium) wat ik wel bij sommige pakkingsets zie op het internet dit zit mij ook aan het denken.
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » ma nov 04, 2019 11:09 pm

daar wordt de zilveren rand mee bedoeld die rond de cilinders zit ( volgens mij is dat staal ) en leg 10 pakkings sets naast elkaar dan verschillen ze bijna allemaal van inhoud
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Re: Welke cilinderkop op om603.960 turbo diesel

Berichtdoor w126560td » di nov 05, 2019 1:44 pm

Alle pakking sets wat ik heb gezien hebben deze zilveren rand. Ook de mijne. Zou het in materiaal kunnen verschillen. Of worden de meeste pakkingsets voor de om603 met deze stalen rand geleverd en geproduceerd omdat deze sterker zijn. Hoe kom ik er nu achter..?
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » di nov 05, 2019 9:50 pm

zover ik weet hebben ze allemaal een stalen band erin zitten , zelfs de benzine uitvoering
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