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brein van automaat eruit halen

Berichtdoor johnny5 » di dec 03, 2019 4:19 pm

is het moeilijk om het brein uit de automaat te halen , om schoon te maken , W124 250D , IK WIL DE k1 PISTON VERVANGEN EN GELIJK HET BREIN MET REMMENREINIGER SCHOONMAKEN , IEMAND DIE DIT AL GEDAAN HEEFT EN foto's GEMAAKT ? sorry voor de capslock :-)
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Re: brein van automaat eruit halen

Berichtdoor Niels » di dec 03, 2019 8:01 pm

Zoek maar eens op youtube;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF5DnGwz7E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=agQ9VYaGQ78

Is dan wel van een nieuwere automaat maar zal toch voor een W124 niet heel veel anders zijn....
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Re: brein van automaat eruit halen

Berichtdoor John.M » di dec 03, 2019 9:44 pm

Is niet zo moeilijk,

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Denk er om dat je een volledige oliewissel set koopt met filter en pakking.
De koppelomvormer moet je ook leeg laten lopen....... denk er om bij b.v. de Taxi Teille set zit het ringetje voor de koppelomvormer NIET bij......... haal die evt. bij de dealer.
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » di dec 03, 2019 9:53 pm

dank voor de snelle reactie,s ik ga vrijdag aan de knutsel , zal proberen om foto's te maken
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » do dec 05, 2019 3:02 pm

als ik het brein eruit heb kom ik dan nog rubber ringetjes tegen?? anders haal ik die eerst even bij gomez
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dank je ga straks beginnen
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » vr dec 06, 2019 3:12 pm

piston vervangen ,het bestelde filter was niet de goede ook de rubber pakking niet , brein niet schoon gemaakt ( m'n maatje had een migraine aanval ) en om alleen te doen vond ik een beetje trikkie ! omdat de auto alleen van voren omhoog kan ( heb nog steeds geen brug ) resultaat valt tegen slipt nog steeds iets tussen 2 en 3 voor de rest schakelt hij soepel ,zit nu 5,3 ltr olie in , is dat tekort of te veel ? anders zal ik toch aan een andere bak moeten gaan denken nu zit er een 124-270-34-02-722-434-0341-41-8934 is dit de goede?
foto's gemaakt maar niets om over naar huis te schrijven ,
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » vr dec 06, 2019 3:47 pm

filter zit er pas 2000 km in denk ik eerder minder ,tja m'n maatje zou helpen maar is ziek ,daarom durfde ik het brein er niet uit te halen ,moet er dagelijks mee rijden dus moet s,avonds weer klar zijn ,had nieuwfilter en pakking gekocht maarwas verkeerd
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » vr dec 06, 2019 10:35 pm

vind het raar dat niemand schijnt te weten hoeveel olie er in de automaatbak gaat ,zelfs bij de Mercedes houden ze zich erg dom ,
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dank je ,zal morgen tijdens de lange rit er een beetje bij gooien ,kijken wt hij dan doet :-)
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » za dec 07, 2019 9:02 pm

vandaag ritje gedaan 70 km heen en weer terug dus 140 km , op de heenweg ongv 2.5 dec er bij weinig verschil en op de terug weg nog een keer , nog steeds slippen , peilstok is ook omgekruld aan de onderkant , maar dat zal wel zo horen denk ik ,maakt ook geen verschil met het meten natuurlijk :-) morgen ritje gouda dan zal ik weer 2.5 dec erbij gooien dan zit ik toch wel aan de 6 ltr
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Berichtdoor John.M » zo dec 08, 2019 9:43 am

Er gaat 6 tot 6,2 liter olie in. Zorg dat het peil juist is, bij warme motor en bak peilen.
ik heb een MB peilstok voor automaatbakken. nieuwere cq latere types bijvoorbeeld de 202 hadden geen peilstok meer op de automaatbak.
Een keertje laten spoelen wil nog wel eens helpen.
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dit is een ouwe W124 van 1993 ,er zit nu 6 ltr in en slipt nog steeds tussen 2 en 3 als ik langzaam optrek dan heeft hij er geen last van en schakelt hij netjes over ( als hij nog koud is scakelt hij perfect ) maar geef ik een beetje meer gas dan slipt hij ,erg lastig op een kruising
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ik zou inderdaad nog eens met de modulator kunnen gaan spelen ,VcV zit er nieuw op , verder kan ik ook niets meer bedenken ,begrijp alleen niet dat als hij koud is de bak perfect schakelt zo gauw hij warm wordt is he slippen :-) , maar het wend beetje met het gas spelen en wachten tot hij overschakelt
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De narigheid is dar er van de onderhouds historie niks bekend is ,ze hebben de 20 klepper vervangen door een tienklepper en dat is alles wat ik weet ! zelf heb ik de motorolie en alle filters vervangen , andere banden ,er is in ieder geval weinig aan onderhoud gedaan , als de boodschappen auto weer rijd dan haal ik het brein eruit ,en maak ik hem schoon met remmen reiniger en anders op zoek naar een andere bak zit hier en daar een gaatje in en deurdorpels zijn rot maar daar had ik al rekening mee gehouden
maar hij blijft wel ,stiekum ben ik toch een beetje van smurf gaan houden :-)
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Berichtdoor w126560td » di dec 10, 2019 12:03 am

Zoals ik kan opmaken uit jou profil gaat het hier om een diesel auto. Zoals Jhon.m en RD500 aangeeft ligt dit probleem waarschijnlijk aan jou bakdruk.

Vacuum druk kan verschil maken tijdens warme motor en koude motor, dit weet ik van mijn eigen auto 300 turbo diesel.
Bij mij is de economy meter (eigenlijk van een benzine) aangesloten als vacuum meter. Op deze meter kan ik percies zien wat mijn vacuum druk is. Mij is altijd opgevallen dat dat de vacuum druk iets lager is bij koude motor en hoger opkomt bij warme motor, buiten temp speelt ook een rol hoe warmer hoe hoger de druk.

Mijn bak slipte ook bij een te hooge druk. Dit heb ik fijn afgstelt waardoor hij 0.0% slipt, te weinig druk betekent bonken, te veel zal slip veroorzaken.

Onze autos zijn al best oud en soms zijn er omleiding of modificaties toegepast waardoor de standaard waardes niet meer kloppen i.v.m met vacuumdruk en andere zaken.


Ik zal jou een hele simpele truukje aanraden i.v.m. met slippen. Rijd de auto warm als hij begint te slippen stop even trek de motorkap open en haal de Vacuümslang op de pomp los die naar je versnellingsbak gaat (modulator) als het probleem aan je bakdruk ligt (warm te hoog) zal hij na deze actie niet meer slippen. Ga niet lang zonder vacuum rijden btw op je bak. Mocht je bak niet meer slippen zonder vaacuum aansluiting dan is de oorzaak duidelijk te hoge druk. Je zult dan je druk moeten verlagen op je bak.

Andere truukje om je bakdruk te verlagen als je modulator niet goed werkt is een paar kleine gaatje prikken op het zachte aansluitstuk op je vaacuum leiding die naar je bak gaat. Als je dit met beleid doet dan zul je jou bak eenvoudig kunnen afstellen en zal de druk dalen en waarschijnlijk zal de slip verdwijnen. Mijn bak heb ikook op deze manier afgestelt en loopt al 5 jaar perfect zonder slip en bonk. Toen ik mijn auto net had gekocht slipte deze als een gek.

Mijn aanpak is niet de regulieren manier van werken maar je zou wel het een en ander eenvoudig kunnen uitsluiten en evt. afstellen.
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Berichtdoor johnny5 » wo dec 11, 2019 12:38 am

en dat ga ik gelijk proberen , waar heb jij de gaatjes mee geprikt??
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Berichtdoor w126560td » wo dec 11, 2019 2:19 pm

Gewoon met een naaldje kleine gaatjes maken evt dicht opelkaar, probeer eerst of er slip is zonder vacuum dan pas beginnen te prikken totdat de slip weg is wel met warme motor
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