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W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor pierro » vr sep 24, 2021 8:02 am

Heb iets olieverlies bij de voorste krukas keerring van mijn M102.980 motor en wil deze dus vernieuwen.

Heeft iemand een MB tutorial hoe dit te doen en wat voor speciaal gereedschap er nodig is.

zijn er nog voorkeuren van het merk keerring, zoals gewoonlijk zijn er velen merken vooradig bij de gebruikelijke webshops.
Is deze klus zelf te doen of raden jullie het af en beter naar de MB dealer brengen?

Ben benieuwd naar jullie info.
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor pierro » ma sep 27, 2021 8:13 am

Is er niemand die dit ooit eerder heeft gedaan (of laten doen) en wat info kan delen.
Ook een beschrijving van MB hoe dit gedaan moet worden kan mij veel helpen.

Ik weet dat de W124 bekend staat om zijn degelijkheid, maar het is moelijk te geloven dat ik de enige ben met dit probleempje van een lekkende krukas keerring.
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor fronteradriver » ma sep 27, 2021 9:01 am

Misschien eens kijken op youtube...en zoeken op "simmering kurbelwelle" of "front main seal".
Maar zelf heb ik het nog nooit gedaan.

Elring maakt goede dichtingen...maar voor een moeilijk bereikbaar onderdeel zou ik eens kijken wat een originele kost bij Mercedes. Als je online koopt, moet je er nog verzendkosten bij tellen. Ik koop ook veel online, maar dichtingen haal ik origineel bij Mercedes op VIN-nummer..
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor John.M » ma sep 27, 2021 8:42 pm

Krukas keerring vervangen is op zich niet heel moeilijk!
Je gaat als volgt te werk.

Bij de MB Dealer bestel je een nieuwe keerring, als je die hebt is het,
- Koelvloeistof er uit laten lopen/aftappen
- Ventilator weg.
- Radiateur er uit.
- Motor blokkeren in de P stand, of versnelling.
- Riemen of snaren (oude m102) weg halen.
- Een goeie/machine dop 27 en met een goeie slagmoersleutel de moer lossen, dan kun je het vliegwiel er af nemen en de keerring er uit wippen. Met 2 parkers op de buitenste kant er ietsjes in draaien trek je de keerring er zo uit.

Op het You Tube kanaal van Kent Bergsma staan een paar filmpjes, weliswaar van oudere types diesels maar het is in de basis hetzelfde!

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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor pierro » do sep 30, 2021 8:09 am

Tot mijn grote verbazing is het lekken gestopt.

Een korte samenvatting;
Na een rit van meer dan 2 uur rond de 150-160Km/uur constant te hebben gereden merkte ik wat olie op de bodemplaat en was het nat onder de voorste krukas keerring.
Nadat ik dit droog en schoon gemaakt heb heb ik een paar dagen gereden, maar niet boven de 100Km/uur en er is geen druppel meer gelekt op dezelfde plek.
Bizar, maar waar en welke de volgende vraag doet opwerpen, Hoe kan een keerring plotseling niet meer lekken, of heb ik door het langdurig met hoog motortoerental te hebben gereden meer carterdruk geproduceerd en dus lekkage?

Wie het weet mag het zeggen, maar ik blijf dit phenomeen even volgen en vooral na een langdurige rit met hoge snelheid.....
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor RD500sec » do sep 30, 2021 3:50 pm

Een hogere carterdruk verwacht ik niet, wel een hogere olietemperatuur, en daarbij horende wat dunnere olie. Plus door het hogere toerental meer liters die verpompt worden, met mogelijk ook een hogere druk.
De oliedrukmeter kan weliswaar niet meer weergeven dan 3 bar, maar de overdrukklep in de motor opent bij een hogere druk, ik dacht een kleine 5 bar.
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor pierro » do sep 30, 2021 4:15 pm

Richard, dus minder lang hard rijden of toch de keerring vervangen, een mooi winterklusje tijdens het gebruikelijke olieverversen.
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor RD500sec » do sep 30, 2021 5:58 pm

Toch vervangen lijkt mij de beste optie.
Hij heeft zich nu aangekondigd, en zal in de loop van de tijd steeds meer gaan lekken.
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor pierro » zo okt 17, 2021 2:21 pm

Ben zover om de oliekeerring te vervangen, maar ben nog op zoek naar het tooltje om het vliegwiel te blokkeren, dit dus... MB ref. 601 589 02 40 00...., waardoor ik de 27mm bout kan losdraaien bij de harmonic balancer

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Heeft iemand hier ervaring mee, er komen toch wel heel veel krachten op als de krukasbout los moet en weer vastgezet gaat worden met een zeer hoge torque.

Zijn er andere tools op de markt, bijvoorbeeld om de balancer te blokkeren middels een tool die je op de tapgaten van de balancer monteerd als de pulley eraf is.

Ik hoor graag jullie ervaringen
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Re: W124 230E krukas keerring (voor) vervangen

Berichtdoor RD500sec » zo okt 17, 2021 5:39 pm

https://www.gmtools.eu/124,motor-einste ... iesel.html

Gevonden met google :)

Er zijn meerdere aanbieders voor deze toolset, niet overal op voorraad, maar ik zou als ik je mag adviseren dit aanschaffen, zonder dit tooltje krijg je het niet voor elkaar.
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