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electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » do dec 01, 2016 11:54 am

Goedendag ik heb kort geleden een W124 sedan gekocht. Nu werkt de electrische raambediening linksvoor niet. Je hoort het motortje wel gaan maar er gebeurt niets. Raam is gesloten. Heb het tandwiel van het mechaniek bekeken en is volgens mij niets mis mee.

Op aanraden van de dealer 2 plastic geleiderblokjes besteld van d bovenste geleider, deze zouden nog wel eens afbreken.

Vraag hoe kom is daar bij en is er een juiste manier deze te vervangen of zou er ook nog een andere oorzaak kunnen zijn.

Heeft iemand een instructie en/of foto's hoe ik dit moet demonteren???

moet het hele mechaniek eruit? als het raam bovenin staat hoe krijg ik deze geleiders los?

In de auto zit zwart leder bekleding echter de achterhoofdsteunen zijn nog in de originele stoffen bekleding. ik heb al begrepen dat deze lastig te krijgen zijn. Ik overweeg nu om de steunen te laten bekleden met leer. Hoe demonteer ik deze? en is het een hoes die er af te halen is? iemand enig idee van de kosten hiervan of andere suggesties?

Mijn dank is groot
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » do dec 01, 2016 12:45 pm

Gebruik de zoekfunctie even.

Maak voor je hoofdsteunen een nieuw apart topic aan. Twee vragen in één topic werkt niet.

Op bijgaande foto's zie je ongeveer hoe het in elkaar zit.
Ik zou het hele mechanisme er even uit halen, is echt niet zoveel werk als het lijkt.
Stel bij het terug plaatsen het mechanisme goed af middels de schroefjes in het centrum. Als je ermee bezig bent begrijp je wat ik bedoel. Als je de boel terug hebt, en je beweegt het raam van boven naar beneden, dan mag de bekleding niet al te erg naar buiten bewegen, liever helemaal niet.

Het blokje op de middenfoto hoort vast te zitten. Het blokje in de sponning waar je blauw vet ziet zitten is een los blokje.
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » do dec 01, 2016 1:08 pm

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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor John.M » do dec 01, 2016 1:12 pm

Kijk o.a. maar eens in mijn logboek kom je het vanzelf wel tegen:
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » do dec 01, 2016 2:37 pm

geweldig heren hier heb ik wat aan.
Echter het raam is wel gesloten en staat dus geheel omhoog, hoe kan ik deze dan demonteren?
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » do dec 01, 2016 2:52 pm

Dat kun je langzaam laten zakken als je het mechanisme demonteerd. Maak de bekleding maar los, dan zie je misschien al wat er aan de hand is. Wees zuinig op het plastic wat de deur afdekt. ;)
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » vr dec 02, 2016 3:33 pm

Heren dank voor de info,

Vandaag de geleiderblokjes proberen te monteren echter deze waren nog goed en bleken er enkele tandjes van het raammechanisme (vertanding) versleten of weg te zijn. Moet dus toch het raammechanisme vernieuwen.

Iemand suggestie's waar ik deze niet al te duur kan verkrijgen?

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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » vr dec 02, 2016 4:34 pm

In 2014 betaalde ik bij Taxiteille 29 euro en 37 cent (Ik denk ex.de btw) voor een fensterheber
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » vr dec 02, 2016 5:13 pm

bedankt Lex,
Ben direct wezen kijken bij Taxiteille zie er 1 staan voor nu € 34.95 incl btw ex verzending onderdeelnummer 1240016
Maar twijfel nu ernstig of dit de juiste is. pffff lastig dit voor de leek
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » vr dec 02, 2016 5:14 pm

wellicht ook beter om er 1 met ook nieuwe motor te bestellen? maken we het nog lastiger?
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor John.M » vr dec 02, 2016 5:47 pm

Ja dat kan wel kloppen ja,
Je kunt op de sloop gaan kijken
Of deze: http://www.te-taxiteile.com/mercedes-te ... -mit-motor


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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » wo dec 14, 2016 12:05 pm

Toch een nieuw mechaniek besteld via auto-onderdelen24.nl levering via Autodoc onderdeel nummer V30-0876, € 59.72 incl. verzending. Het is het juiste mechaniek. Jammer dat de nokjes met schroefdraad er los bijgeleverd worden, terwijl bij het origineel deze erop geperst zitten.

Dit opgelost door deze te verlijmen omdat deze er anders steeds uitvallen bij montage incl. motor. na veel gepiel en gevloek eindelijk weer een mooi werkend electrisch raam. Voor de zekerheid het oude mechaniek waar inderdaad enkele tanden af waren het originele nummer genoteerd t.w. W163/124
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » wo maart 29, 2017 1:59 pm

Balen het nieuw geleverde en gemonteerde mechaniek via autodoc heeft het begeven, 1 van de nokjes met schroefdraad is losgekomen en nu zit de scharnierarm niet meer vast. Het boutje is door de plastic ring gekomen (ontbreken metalen plaatjes op dit onderdeel) en het raam functioneert niet meer.

Nu maar het oude originele mechaniek welke ik bewaard had enkele nieuwe tanden op laten lassen en bijgevijld voor €30,-

In het weekend maar kijken of we deze zo weer aan de gang krijgen. Een nieuw origineel mechaniek lastig te krijgen en bij de dealer € 165,-
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor Rojo124 » wo maart 29, 2017 6:42 pm

Je hebt de tanden er weer opgelast ?...heb ik ook een keer gedaan maar het blijft een verzwakking.

wat je beter kan doen is...het hele halve maan segment er met een ijzerzaag tussenuit zagen...en dan omdraaien en er weer tussen lassen.

het zijn namelijk altijd de eerste 4a5 tanden die versleten zijn...de tanden aan het einde van de halve maan zijn altijd nog als nieuw.

bij mij werkt hij al weer een jaartje of 4 perfect.
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor mercw124 » vr maart 04, 2022 10:22 am

Nu aan de andere kant(rechts) doet het nog wel echter de ruit gaat heel langzaam omhoog. Lijkt of als het motortje vermoeid is............ Zou het op te lossen zijn met een nieuw motortje??? zo ja iemand het onderdeelnummer hiervan?
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor Hans000 » vr maart 04, 2022 12:38 pm

Denk dat het een goede smeerbeurt nodig heeft, zou daar eerst mee beginnen voordat je een nieuwe motor aanschaft.
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Re: electrische raambediening LV werkt niet

Berichtdoor verkuilm » za maart 05, 2022 9:53 am

Bij mijn coupe ook de tanden opgelast en weer gevijlt. Werkt goed. Voor coupe zijn nwe mechanisme niet te krijgen. Daarnaast merk ik met alles, er zo veel troep tekoop, nieuw.
Hoe het langer termijn blijft gaan we wel zien!
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