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Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » di jun 28, 2022 2:42 pm

Mijn lampje van reservebank brand denk ik veel te vroeg.

Heb de vlotter gedemonteerd en deze was echt nieuwstaat. Ook de weerstand uitgemeten en waardes kloppen. Nu dacht ik gewoon te rijden tot tank leeg is en dan 5 liter in gooien dan heb ik een idee van de juiste inhoud.

Gereden tot tank leeg was en dan 5 liter in gegooid. Op de foto zie je waar de meter staat. Klopt dit want met de zoekfunctie zag ik dat de meter meer naar beneden moet vooralleer hij in reserve gaat.
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » wo jun 29, 2022 11:24 am

Je hebt zo te lezen twee diesels en beide sedans.
Dan kan je toch vlot de vlotterpijpen even uitwisselen cq omruilen en zien wat er dan gebeurt.
Het maakt niet uit of de ene een 90 en/of de ander een 70 liter tank is, de hoogte is gelijk.
Alles wat geschreven wordt, hoe goed bedoeld ook, hoeft geen waarheid te bevatten.
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » wo jun 29, 2022 6:16 pm

Heb een andere vlotter gestoken maar zelfde effect. Lamp gaat veel te snel aan. Geloof idd dat er bij die stand nog een 15 liter moet inzitten. Wijzers verdraaien ben ik niet echt eennm fan van , gevoelige tandwielen en blijf ik liever af. Toen ik de vlotter demonteerde zakte hij naar beneden zonder te haperen.

Ik kan een foto nemen van de vlotter maar zoals ik zei deze is echt zo goed als nieuw. Waar kan ik verder zoeken?
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » wo jun 29, 2022 9:34 pm

U vraagt, u krijgt. Denk dat het aan iets anders te wijten ligt. Meter staat vrij ver naar links.
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Eric99 » wo jun 29, 2022 9:45 pm

Het lampje wordt aangestuurd door een apart contact onderin de vlotter. Op dat punt zit er nog 9 liter in bij een 70 liter tank.

De wijzer wordt aangestuurd via de variabele weerstanddraden. Als deze niet goed meer zijn kan het voorkomen dat de wijzer meer dan een kwart aangeeft terwijl de vlotter al bijna onderin ligt en het lampje al brand.
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » do jun 30, 2022 10:13 am

Dezelfde meter/naald 2 x op de foto, iets links en iets recht genomen.
Die meter is goed, zit in een diesel 4V en de naald ligt op dezelfde plaats als TS.

Met 5 liter diesel in de tank brand het lampje terecht.
Met twee tankvlotters die teveel aangeven, lijken die niet de oorzaak.
Wat dan wel weet ik niet, alleen maar raden en denk de print.
Het is wel wat werk, je zou ook de printplaat met de drie meters kunnen uitwisselen.
Dan weet je weer meer.
Werkt de nachtverlichting, schakelaars, kachelknoppen enz., nog wel?
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » do jun 30, 2022 10:36 am

Alles werkt , alleen die vlotter niet naar behoren.

Ik heb foto's genomen voor meer duidelijkheid.

Ziet er mij toch een vrij nieuwe vlotter uit.
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Volle tank
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Vlotter aangesloten buiten de tank en omgedraaid om de stand te zien bij volle tank.
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Vlotter rechtop dus helemaal naar beneden ,tank leeg, bij contact aan blijft de wijzer staan. Toen de wagen uitviel ,lege tank dus, stond de wijzer op het laatste streepje.
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » do jun 30, 2022 2:41 pm

Dat klopt inderdaad, de andere metertjes werken perfect.

Ik check massapunt achteraan aan de wielkast
Demonteer de teller en bekijk de soldering
Daarna meet ik de connectie tussen de stekker van de vlotter en multistekker teller. Zijn er bepaalde waardes voor?
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Shostakovich124 » do jun 30, 2022 3:02 pm

Het massapunt in de wielkast kan niet de oorzaak zijn;
de meter 'werkt' en het lampje brand, ze hebben het/dezelfde massadraad en -punt.

Toevallig heb ik nog maar een paar dagen geleden zo'n print vervangen.
De klachten, geen nachtverlichting en ook een niet goed aangevende tankmeter.
De andere meters werkten prima maar de print bleek niet goed meer na doormeten.
Aan de printplaat was trouwens niet te zien of te ruiken.
Bedenk dat de draden van de tankvlotter niet rechtstreeks op de meter zitten.
Voordat deze de meter 'ingaan' gaat het door allerlei componentjes, diodes, weerstandjes enz..
Als daar iets van stuk is worden de vlotterwaardes niet goed vertaald en geeft de meter foute aanwijzing.
Maar dit is mijn kijk op dit probleem.
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » do jun 30, 2022 3:09 pm

Eric,

Ik sluit zeker niet uit dat het probleem in de teller zit.

Kan haast niet anders.

Zie net je post terug met extra info.

Heb je foto van de printplaat die je vervangen had ? En wat was er juist niet goed van meting?
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Re: Vlotter vraagje

Berichtdoor Papyrus » di sep 13, 2022 11:39 am

Geert,

Ik ga je gelijk moeten geven. Ik ben er nu ook vrijwel zeker van dat er ergens een weerstand ,diode in de teller slecht werkt of kapot is.

Heeft iemand dit ooit eens voorgehad ?
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