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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor HakanC » do dec 08, 2022 1:43 pm

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Beste mensen, ik heb met de black friday dagen korting de gok gewaagd om van autodoc de Mahle versie te kopen. Inderdaad had deze ook Behr opdruk (zoals origineel). En eindelijk ben ik af van het bijna altijd draaien van de ventilator.

Maar wat wel raar is:
Volgens gegevens van Mercedes zelf moet de thermostaat bij 87 graden open gaan en de viscokoppeling heeft als waarde 90 graden (wanneer die moet inschakelen).

De niet originele leveranciers houden zich eigenlijk wel hieraan. maar tussen 87 en 90 is het verschil zo klein dat deze bijna altijd aan is terwijl de originele Behr (Mahle) versie pas na 95 graden inschakelt..

Dus eigen technische specs van Mercedes kloppen hierbij niet. Maar ja bij mij zijn de problemen nu eindelijk opgelost.
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » do dec 08, 2022 2:31 pm

Mooi dat je het weer opgelost hebt het lijkt me echt irritant zo n F16 geluid.

Nu heb ik eens een vraag ik had me nooit verdiept in een Visco koppeling en ik heb net even op google gekeken en ik snap nu wat hij doet en hoe hij werkt.

Alleen snap ik niet helemaal wat het voordeel is van zo n koppeling vergeleken met een auto die hem niet heeft daar kom ik niet helemaal uit op internet?????
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor verkuilm » vr dec 09, 2022 8:48 am

Het heeft geen voordelen. Best een waardeloos systeem. Je ziet het ook niet meer op autos.
Vreemd is helemaal, de mijn heeft airco. Dan heb je dus een visico en electra fan. Beide.

Ik was nog niet helemaal blij met de Mahle fan heb dus ook de sachs gekocht.
Heb er nu drie :)
De sachs loopt veel en veel lichter dan de mahle, de coupe is nu nog een stuk stiller.
Maar of deze echt goed inschakeld weet ik niet. de test met plakband en stationair laten draaien dan gebeurt er niks. Die mahle wel bij iets boven de 90 grijpt die vast.
Maar goed in de winter maakt dat niet zoveel uit.
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » vr dec 09, 2022 10:52 am

Bedankt voor je uitleg heb ik weer wat geleerd het is inderdaad ook nog storing gevoelig zo n visco koppeling ;)
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » vr dec 09, 2022 4:58 pm

Je legt het wel duidelijk uit nu beginnen de kwartjes te vallen en van het file rijden wist ik ook niet dus ff gas geven dan schakelt hij in goed om te weten ;)
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor verkuilm » ma dec 12, 2022 8:11 am

Nou zo is het ook weer niet. Gaat vanzelf aan. Alleen als je klein beetje gas geeft, draait de motor harder dan dus ook de FAN. Teveel gas werkt juist niet, boven beplaad toerental gaat ie juist weer "uit"
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » ma dec 12, 2022 8:29 am

Je moet het allemaal maar weten wat een techniek onze wagens 8-)
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » ma dec 12, 2022 10:34 am

Ik ga toch eens het instructie boekje er bij pakken maar verwacht niet dat zoiets er in staat ik meende ook al vorige week dat ik iets op internet had gelezen over gas geven als je in de file staat dat hij dan oppakt en beter gaat koelen ;)
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » ma dec 12, 2022 11:11 am

Ik snap je verhaal hoor en nu je het zegt er gaat me een lampje branden het was mij wel eens opgevallen dat als mijn meter erg hoog stond met de temperatuur en ik trok dan weer op dat de meter super snel weer zakte nu weet ik waarom door meer toeren te maken.

Het is allemaal simpel als je het maar weet ik ben alleen wel benieuwd of zoiets nou in het instructie boekje staat want als je dus als leek in de file staat bijv. in Turkije dan moet je dus wel iets gas geven als hij te warm word :?

Wel mooi dat je Airco ook nog koeling geeft zo luxe heb ik het niet ben al blij met mijn open dak ;)
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor verkuilm » ma dec 12, 2022 10:17 pm

je hoeft echt geen gas te geven. Als de VISCO blokeert dan draait die inderdaad het stationair toerental. Infeite is ventilator dan vast verbonden met de motor.
Alleen dat is echt wel een orkaan. Meer dan genoeg om een windstroom op gang te brengen.
ik meen dat de visco weer ontkoppeld bij 2500 toeren of meer. Volgens Mercedes.
Van de zomer op Corsica 40 graden helling op met bagage en airco uit. Geeft geen krimp. Temperatuur veranderd niet.
ook niet met 15 min stationair draaien.

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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » ma dec 12, 2022 10:34 pm

Ja dat is inderdaad zo ik vind het toch leuk om me er eens in te verdiepen vandaar ook mijn vragen aan jullie :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor verkuilm » ma dec 12, 2022 11:53 pm

Ik heb m nog nooit boven de 90 gezien, maar die m111 zijn van huis wel koeler dan de 6 cilinders.
Ook boven de 40 graden niet. Mm ja vond dus wel serieuse orkaan. Als ie vast zit dan. Wat ook zelden is. Maar goed voorlopig vriest het!

De amerikanen gooien m er vaak af en nemen andere sensor voor de electra fans.
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Re: Viscokoppeling niet goed?

Berichtdoor Nico 43 » di dec 13, 2022 10:59 am

Je laatste zin vind ik wel wat ik kan snappen dat de Amerikanen de visco koppeling er af halen en voor een gewone kiezen.

Daarom had ik ook een beetje uitleg aan jullie gevraagd wou me er toch eens in verdiepen het hoe en waarom 8-)
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