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Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Dweezman » za jun 04, 2016 11:36 am

Sterrenbroeders,

Wat kan het zijn?
Ik heb een nieuw mechanisme (taxiteile) in mijn deur linksvoor. Het heeft een klein jaartje prima gewerkt, maar nu bij het laten zakken van het raam, loopt hij scheef en kantelt voorover als het ware, en loopt vast.

De weg terug lukt helemaal niet: ik moet hem handmatig recht houden en met de hand begeleiden om hem dicht te krijgen.

Heb het paneel er al voor vandaan gehaald, alle bouten zitten prima vast, alles lijkt goed.
Wel kan ik met hand die kantelbeweging heel makkelijk maken, alsof het mechanisme zelf stuk is.

En het is al zo warm buiten.
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Dweezman » za jun 04, 2016 11:49 am

hier ben ik bang voor:
https://youtu.be/w2lsH6WYb2s?t=3m50s
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor John.M » za jun 04, 2016 3:09 pm

Kijk hier eens naar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5oEQPFDd_A


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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » za jun 04, 2016 3:57 pm

Ik heb precies hetzelfde.

Moet er nog naar kijken.
Heb ook ongeveer een jaar geleden het hele mechanisme vernieuwd. :lol: ook bij Taxiteille gekocht.
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » za jun 04, 2016 8:57 pm

Vanavond het paneel/deurkaart er af gehaald.

Bij mij viel er wat in de deur toen het raam scheef zakte.

En wat er viel zie je op de foto.
Ik weet alleen niet waar het vanaf gebroken is.

Ligt er misschien bij jou ook wat in de deur.
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Dweezman » za jun 04, 2016 9:30 pm

volgens mij zijn dit de geleiders die verticaal over de rail lopen. Die zitten er bij mij wel nog op, maar wel veel ruimte aan weerskanten.

Mss zijn die taxiteile raammechanismen gewoon rommel...
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » za jun 04, 2016 9:31 pm

Het raam wordt volgens mij door twee armen omhoog gebracht.
Aan het uiteinde van de armen zit een kunststof geleider die in de sleden/rails glijdt.

Op de foto is één van de geleiders te zien.
De andere zit buiten zicht IN de deur en daar zit de geleider niet (Meer)

Kan iemand bevestigen of het witte kunststof ding op eerdere foto, de missende geleider is.?

Misschien moet je daar ook even naar kijken Derek ;)
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » za jun 04, 2016 9:33 pm

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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Dweezman » zo jun 05, 2016 8:21 pm

Da's een goeie vraag. Heb nog een nieuwe liggen voor rechtsvoor, maar twijfel of ik die er in ga zetten.

Inmiddels weet ik ook wat het probleem is: 2 van de armen moeten diagonaal gefixeerd zitten. Bij mij kunnen ze alle 4 los van elkaar bewegen. het was eerst goed, dus dit is gewoon kapot gegaan..

Van Wezel parts raammechanismes = niet doen.
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » zo jun 05, 2016 8:44 pm

Das een tip die ik ter harte zal nemen, bedankt!
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » di jun 07, 2016 3:12 pm

http://www.auto-onderdelen24.nl/blic/7609266

Iemand ervaring met BLIC :lol:
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Wouter61636 » di jun 07, 2016 3:50 pm

Beste Bram en Dweezman,

Als het raam scheef je deur in glijd (of er scheef uit komt) dan is de geleider welke te zien is op de eerste foto van deze threat uit de verticale rails gegaan of kapot oid. Deze opmerking is al gemaakt en is juist net als dat de besproken 2 armen diagonaal gefixeert moeten zitten. Hier heb ik van het weekend genoeg ervaring mee gehad tijdens het verwisselen van de raammechanismes voor elektrische.

Voor Bram heb ik nog wel een links- en rechtsvoor handbediend mechanisme liggen. Stuur maar een pb'te bij interesse!
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » di jun 07, 2016 3:54 pm

Aardig aanbod Wouter, maar ik heb elektrisch bedienbare ramen ;)
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Dweezman » di jun 07, 2016 11:44 pm

Hey Wouter,

De mijne zijn ook elektriek.
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Wouter61636 » wo jun 08, 2016 12:37 pm

Excuus,

Ik had niet goed gelezen! Succes met de reparaties!
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Franklee » vr jun 10, 2016 7:56 am

Ik heb bij mij ook al 3 stuks mogen vervangen, alleen rechtsachter nog niet. Bij mijn vorige 200D ook 2. Ik begrijp dat de imitaties van TE taxi teile niet goed zijn, ik heb 2 exemplaren via forumlid Maickel en eentje via Mercedes-only in Hapert.
Stalen geieiders goed invetten zodat de kunststof delen soepel bewegen en alles is weer ok.

Het ontbreken van vet in de stalen geleiders lijkt de oorzaak, de kunststof geleiders lopen stroef en slijten/breken, of het mechaniek krijgt zoveel weerstand dat de tanden extra slijten of het motortje doorbrand ivm teveel weerstand.
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » vr jun 10, 2016 8:20 am

Denk inderdaad dat het ontbreken/te weinig vet de oorzaak is van het afbreken en mank raken van scharniert punten.
Zal de volgende vol baggeren met vet.

Gisteravond één besteld van het merk BIC bij auto onderdelen 24 voor rond de 45 euro incl verzenden.
Bij de dealer kost deze 163,50 excl. btw
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Dweezman » za jun 11, 2016 1:12 pm

Die van BLIC heeft geen motor: kun je die overzetten van je huidige? Waarom denk je dat die BLIC wel goed is, Bram?

[edit]Heb boven nog een Van Wezel met motor voor rechts liggen: de motor zit idd geschroefd.[/edit]
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » za jun 11, 2016 3:14 pm

Ha Derek,

Ik heb geen idee of die van Blic wel goed is, we gaan het ervaren. Ik moest een keuze maken omdat wij dagelijks gebruik maken van de auto.
Ja, motor is over te zetten.

Heb er inmiddels één besteld.

Ben ook nog even samen met een forum lid bezig geweest aan het mechanisme.
Er is waarschijnlijk nog wel wat meer kapot, maar heb de onderdeel nummers gekregen dus kan het zo halen.

Wordt vervolgd :D
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Re: Raam zakt scheef, nieuw mechanisme

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » vr jun 17, 2016 1:24 pm

Wie kijkt voor mij even in het EPC naar losse onderdelen van het raammechanisme, los van het raammechanisme zelf met de armen, maar die kleine delen/glijblokjes die verantwoordelijk zijn/samenhangen met het omhoog/omlaag schuiven van het raam in de geleiders? De losse deeltjes daar wil ik graag een plaatje en/of nummer van hebben.

Onder andere van dit raam-zakt-scheef-nieuw-mechanisme-t16105.html#p129455
Maar er is meer aan losse plastic "rommel" wat gebroken kan zijn, wie weet dit?
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