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Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » do mei 25, 2023 8:23 pm

Na alles opgezocht hier op forum heb ik het probleem niet kunnen vinden.

Meter blijft beneden plakken, bij contact gaat hij dus mm naar boven.

De sensor werkt, in andere wagen gestoken en deed het.

Teller is ook het probleem niet, in andere wagen gestoken en temperatuurmeter gaat mooi naar de 81 graden.

Kabelbreuk is het ook niet, de kabel van de connector in de sensor gevolgd tot aan de teller.

Witte kabel tot aan de stekker boven gloeirelais. Groene kabel van de stekker tot nr2 van de 15polige stekker gevolgd en geen breuk.

Sensor geleden bij koude motor 2200 ohm, hoe warmer de motor hoe lager de weerstand.

Sensor proberen kortsluiten op massa maar de teller springt niet naar 120 graden dit is vreemd.

Pin 1 en 2 van de 15 polige stekker meet ik 2.49V en bij gas geven 1.88V en 2.22 ohm zonder contact en eens gestart geen weerstand meer.

Waar kan het probleem zijn of waar kan ik nog zoeken?
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor pierro » zo mei 28, 2023 1:13 pm

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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » ma mei 29, 2023 11:16 am

Er loopt idd 1 kabel vanuit de sensor in het blok net boven thermostaat. Die gaat naar een 2 koppige stekker boven het gloeirelais en daar komt een kabel toe die vertrekt vanuit het gloeirelais . Vanuit die stekker (witte en groene draad) loopt hij naar een andere grotere stekker onderaan de zekeringkast. Van daaruit heb ik de groene kabel gevolgd die naar de 15 polige stekker gaat en daar is geen kabelbreuk. Dus het probleem zal erders liggen.

Bedankt voor pdf maar daar staat niet echt de info die ik nodig heb
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » ma mei 29, 2023 11:54 am

Dit betreft een om602 zonder airco. Er is maar 1 temp sensor aanwezig en klopt. Vandaar die temp sensor loopt 1 kabel naar de stekker op de foto en nog een kabel van gloeirelais naar de stekker.
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » do jun 01, 2023 9:12 am

Had dit idd best eerder vermeld maar was iets te gefocust op de problemen.

Weet je soms in welke richting het nog kan zitten dat temperatuurmeter niet werkt?
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » za jun 03, 2023 8:00 pm

Hoe krijg ik enige beweging in de wijzer? Kabel aan sensor op massa wagen aansluiten haalt niets uit?
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » za jun 03, 2023 10:23 pm

Dit is idd dezelfde auto. En op foto zie je de weerstand die ik heb vanuit de 15 polige stekker gemeten.

Ik meet geen 12v wel , dit bedoel je met +12v ? Kan ik hier iets aan doen?

Welke problemen zouden door die spanningsregelaar kunnen voortvloeien? En dan zouden de andere meters ook niet werken denk ik dan?
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » zo jun 04, 2023 11:05 am

Deze heb ik gemeten aan pin 1 en 2 van de 15p stekker.

Ik ga de zekeringen vernieuwen, bus strakker zetten.

Feit dat de meter bij contact 1mm omhoog springt wil niets zeggen?

Kan ik die +12v van zijn bron volgen tot de meter ? Waar juist Kan ik beginnen ?
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Re: Temperatuurmeter koelvloeistof werkt niet

Berichtdoor Papyrus » wo jun 07, 2023 5:15 pm

Probleem opgelost.

Zit blijkbaar nog een sensor bovenaan het motorblok. Connector leek goed maar was het niet. Gedoe om eraan te geraken, net onder de inlaatcollector.

Topic mag op slot.

Nog 1 probleem op te lossen, dashboardlampjes die blijven branden.
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