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Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental. : Techniek - 3

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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor John.M » di mei 19, 2020 2:05 pm

Ja, en die zijn nogal eens flink doorgezakt.
Als ik een goeie tip mag geven, koop ze (veel duurder) bij de dealer.......... anders kan je ze na een jaar alweer vervangen
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » di mei 19, 2020 2:28 pm

Hallo John,
Kan jij dat zo zien dat die zijn doorgezakt, want ik heb geen referentie hoe die zouden moeten zijn.
Ik lees dat Lemförder uitstekende kwaliteit is en dat je best beide vervangt?
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Gombal » di mei 19, 2020 2:50 pm

Simpel te checken, de onderste rand van de hydraulische motorsteun zelf, metaal bij jou zo te zien, moet minimaal 14 mm ruimte tot aan de dwarsbalk eronder hebben, meer is beter.
Is het minder wordt het tijd voor nieuwe.
Goedkopere werken ook maar Lemforder is een hele goede keuze.
Heb zelf € 15,00 Topran exemplaren gehad, werkten goed, waren echter na 30.000 km op. (Was in mijn geval een jaar, was wel met een diesel maar zomaar even ter info)
Omdat het wisselen een fluitje van een cent is heb ik dat gewoon geprobeerd.
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » di mei 19, 2020 3:46 pm

Die 14mm wordt nog net gehaald, maar het is kantje boordje
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » wo mei 20, 2020 12:05 pm

Heb eens onder de wagen gelegen en gezien dat de rubber vd motorsteun aan passagierskant is ingezakt.
Daarna even een houten balk onder de carter gestoken en heel lichtjes opgekrikt, in de wagen met de transmissie in D kon ik het geluid dat ik altijd hoor niet meer vaststellen.
Mag ik dan concluderen dat de motorsteunen de schuldigen zijn?
Is het best dat alle drie de steunen ineens worden vervangen en is dit goed doenbaar?
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » za mei 30, 2020 12:09 pm

Nieuwe motorsteun erin en het stationair getik is weg. Draait ook veel rustiger.
2 minpuntjes;
1. Enkel de rechtersteun vervangen, de andere zit volledig weggestoken en heb schrik de boel kapot te maken.
2. Bij > 2500rpm nog steeds geratel hoorbaar, kleppen tikken ook wat bij koude motor.
Wordt nog verder onderzocht
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » zo mei 31, 2020 11:52 am

De nokken nog eens bekeken door de krukas te draaien, bepaalde nokken hadden precies wat brokjes. Een nok was ook niet mooi rond maar precies wat hoekig.
Enkele van de tuimelaars kon ik links naar rechts bewegen, anderen zaten mooi muurvast.
Is deze nokkenas dood? Of eerder normaal qua slijtage?
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » do jun 11, 2020 8:35 am

Controle is uitgevoerd in de garage en heb deze diagnose gekregen;

"-Controle ratelend lawaai vanuit de motor. Bij controle blijkt dat dit uit de drijfstang lagers komt. Motor moet
gedemonteerd worden en volledig uit elkaar gehaald worden om een definitieve diagnose te stellen.
-Vacuümtest is niet uitgevoerd aangezien er motorschade is.
-Wagen kan nog gereden worden maar zeer voorzichtig, kans is bestaat dat de motor volledig kapot draait."

Ik kijk bij reparatie dus aan tegen 4 cijfers, wat mij teveel is..
Jammer was toch een fijne wagen al bij al. :(
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » do jun 11, 2020 9:24 am

Ik moet de wagen nog gaan halen, ik zal daar met de mechanieker er eens over praten om te zien wat de opties zijn.
Normaal zou een reparatie aan de lagers van de onderkant moeten kunnen gebeuren zoals ik al heb gelezen, maar volgens hen moet toch heel de motor worden gedemonteerd.. Ik kan daar weinig op zeggen want ik neem aan dat die mannen weten waar ze over praten.
Ja ik had de wagen vorige zomer inderdaad juist met die reden gekocht om hem op te knappen, ik had wel niet gerekend dat er motorschade was.. Is me toen ook totaal niet opgevallen, wel wat startproblemen werk aan carosserie..
Dus ja ik zal moeten mijn opties overwegen, liefst van al zou ik de wagen in orde willen krijgen want is echt fijn om in te zitten..
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Blauwe Hap » do jun 11, 2020 1:14 pm

Ja dat is zuur. Wel heel raar dat het getik ophield (ook onder belasting?) bij het vervangen van de motorsteun. Is het getik teruggekomen? Zou nog zeker een second opinion vragen, of heb je veel vertrouwen in de garage en ken je ze goed? Er wordt wat af gediagnostiseerd voor onwetende klanten....
Ik ken de M102 niet goed maar volgens WIS moet de motor er inderdaad uit voor krukasonderhoud.
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Berichtdoor Giovanni » do jun 11, 2020 1:25 pm

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Berichtdoor Giovanni » do jun 11, 2020 8:54 pm

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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » za jun 13, 2020 7:44 pm

De wagen was niet meer te redden zonder nieuwe motor of herbouwen van de huidige. Ben dus opnieuw Mercedes loos.
Zal het de komende jaren enkel moeten stellen met mijn Renault Grand Scenic IV
Heb wel nog enkele onderdelen die ik hier ga plaatsen, kan er misschien iemand mee helpen.
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Berichtdoor MB280E » za jun 13, 2020 8:32 pm

Er zijn genoeg 2dehands blokken te koop in BE die ook goed zijn. Als de carrosserie nog ok is dan is dit het overwegen waard.
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Berichtdoor BenzMercedes » zo aug 16, 2020 2:10 pm

Wat is een hoog toerental? Bij het starten, automaat in P, is dat altijd hoger dan in N. Althans, dat dacht ik.
Now you know what a car should be like
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Re: Tikkend geluid bij stationair / hoge toerental.

Berichtdoor Giovanni » zo aug 16, 2020 5:04 pm

De wagen is al enkele maanden weg, het waren beschadigde drijfstanglagers
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