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Beste mensen. Sinds een week of twee heb ik het volgende probleem. Bij koude (en lauwe) start gaat mijn verwarming altijd voluit aan. Dat terwijl de draaiknoppen op 0 oftewel "uit" staan. Ik heb geen airco. Ik heb het laatst getest en ik merkte toen dat de verwarming vanzelf weer uit gaat als de koelvloeistof-temperatuurmeter op normaal staat. Daar heeft het dus iets mee te maken is mijn conclusie. Iemand een idee of dit probleem makkelijk zelf te verhelpen is?

Gaat de aanjager aan of komt er ongeacht de temperatuurinstelling warme lucht uit? Het laatst zou te maken kunnen hebben met het duiventiel of de aansturing daarvan: in rusttoestand staat het duoventiel open waardoor de warme koelvloeistof in de kachelradiateur loopt.

De ventilatorstand maakt niet uit en de temperatuurregeling staat gewoon uit (koud). Verwarming wordt ondanks dat toch loeiheet en pas bij warme motor gaat hij weer uit, als de koelwater-temperatuurmeter dus de normale bedrijfstemperatuur waarde heeft bereikt.

Ik denk dat het duoventiel even blijft hangen in de ruststand (dus helemaal open). Koelvloeistof aftappen en duoventiel vervangen. Het duoventiel zit voor de accu ter hoogte van de schokbreker en bestaat uit twee cilinders met bovenop een elektronische aansluiting.

Je kunt het duoventiel ook uit elkaar halen heel goed schoonmaken dan werken ze in de regel wel weer goed.

Duoventiel kun je ook gewoon open maken (wel eerst koelvloeistof aftappen idd) als je hem ertussen uit gehaald hebt. Mocht er vuil inzitten kun je dat gewoon wegspoelen/poetsen en dan moet hij het theoretisch gewoon weer doen.
Check ook eens of je luchtpompje het nog doet (ik ga ervan uit dat je een schuif/kantel dak hebt).
Dit kan je makkelijk checken door een papiertje van 1 bij 1 cm tegen het roostertje in het dak te houden. Dit moet blijven hangen. Mocht je geen schuifdak hebben dan moet het papiertje blijven hangen met de blower op stand 3.
Wat je beschrijft lijkt er namelijk ook op als er geen lucht langs je temperatuursensor in het dak gaat. Dan gaat het duoventiel pas dicht als de warmte vanzelf doorgedrongen is tot de temperatuursensor.

Duoventiel aansturing kun je ook simpel checken door te luisteren als er wel warmtevraag is, dan moeten ze tikken. En ik weet dat ergens op het forum nog mooier en beter beschreven staat hoe je je duoventiel aansturing kan checken, even zoeken dus.

Maar ik zou zeker eerst ook even checken of er idd nog lucht langs de sensor gaat.

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Dank voor de snelle en duidelijke reacties!

En Arjen, nee, ik heb helaas geen schuifdak.. De enige (relevante) optie die mijn auto heeft, is een automaat. Een echte boekhoudersuitvoering is het dus.

Ik zal er toch mee naar mijn garage gaan denk ik (Bijsterbosch in Heerde). Ik ben namelijk geen echte sleutelaar. Hoewel ik de bougies wel altijd zelf vervangen heb tot nu toe.

Dan heb je als voordeel dat je luchtpompje niet kapot kan gaan want je hebt een venturi. Neemt niet weg dat je af en toe eens de stofzuiger op het roostertje moet houden, zuigt continu aan dus zit net zoveel stof in als in je stofzuiger als je het nooit schoonmaakt

in het kachelhuis net boven de radio...zitten ook nog 2 temperatuur sensoren...die willen ook nog wel eens stuk gaan.
maar je zegt dat de kachel warm gaat blazen met de knop in de 0 stand ????
gr Ron

Om het verhaal af te maken... Ik heb op Ebay in Duitsland tweedehands een origineel Mercedes "Umwälzpumpe mit Duoventil" gekocht voor €75,- (incl. verzenden €90,-). Het Bosch-nummer is 0392020035 en het Mercedes-nummer 0018303784. Dit heeft lid John.M voor mij er in gebouwd en nu werkt alles weer zoals het hoort! Super blij mee dus. John for president dus Om er een beetje fatsoenlijk bij te kunnen heeft hij de accu verwijderd. De plaat waarop de accu rustte was flink verroest en ook deze plaat had John nog liggen en heeft hij omgewisseld. Zie hieronder een foto van het duoventiel dat ik kocht voor mijn wagen.

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Leuk die kennis en hulp hier op dit forum!

Graag gedaan hoor en nog wat sfeer plaatjes.
Ja eerst maar eens de accu er uit gesleuteld dan kun je er makkelijk bij, toen de accu er uit was bleek de plaat waar de accu op staat in een wel heel erbarmelijke staat te verkeren, had er gelukkig nog 1, ook niet de beste maar wel een stuk beter als die er uit kwam
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Dan 2 bakken onder de wagen gezet om de koelvloeistof op te vangen, de slangklemmen los, ventiel wisselen en alles weer in elkaar bouwen
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Verse koelvloeistof er in, paar proefritjes gemaakt en probleem weer opgelost