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W124Club.nl • Reparatieset- wielophanging : Techniek - 2
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Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: wo nov 14, 2018 8:33 pm
door Hakie
Ik heb er speciaal gereedschap via eBay voor gekocht.

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Ik had alles losgehaald maar je kunt de tool ook zo op de auto gebruiken.

De nieuwe erin persen gaat met hetzelfde gereedschap.

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Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: wo nov 14, 2018 9:53 pm
door Micha12345
De oude type is niet los te krijgen

Ik heb hem eruit gebrand en daarna met zaag kapot gemaakt was anders niet te doen

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 15, 2018 4:02 pm
door Jenf
Hallo,

Ik heb even een vraag,
Ik ben het subframe van mijn W201 ook aan reviseren.
Nu ben ik een beetje aan het shoppen waar ik de beste deal kan sluiten. Op auto-onderdelen24 wordt deze set ook aangeboden. De set is daar redelijk duur maar mijn vraag is:
Als je wilt bestellen staat er een 2 ik vind dit een beetje onduidelijk.
Het lijkt mij, dat je aan 1 genoeg hebt. Ik kan niet duidelijk vinden uit hoeveel onderdelen deze set bestaat. volgens mij bestaat de volledige set uit 8 onderelen.
1set € 184,37 x2 = € 368,74 vind ik een hele boel geld, hoe zien jullie dit?

Hieronder de link:
https://www.auto-onderdelen24.nl/lemforder/1271748

@ Hakie,
Dat pers setje, lijkt een ander set je dan dat ik tot nu toe ben tegen gekomen op internet,
Heb je ook een link van waar je, dat setje hebt gekocht?

Nog een vraag,

Heeft iemand van het volgende onderdeel ook een artikel nummer? Dit zal voor de W201 het zelfde zijn denk ik.
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Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 15, 2018 4:27 pm
door John.M

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 15, 2018 5:27 pm
door Bart_vg
Super tip, bedankt!
eens zo'n gereedschap setje bestellen.
heb 2 jaar geleden alles van het onderstel vernieuwd (stuurkogels, fusee, stangen, rubbers, schokdempers, veren,...) behalve deze 2 gewrichten aan wielzijde. Wetende dat ze versleten zijn :oops:

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 15, 2018 7:11 pm
door Rojo124
Nog een vraagje over het plaatsen van de reactiestangen
ik lees overal dat je de stangetjes met de kogels/fusee,s moet merken voordat je ze demonteer.

ik weet dat je de auto beter kan laten uitlijnen na het monteren van de reactiearmen...maar alleen deze stangen moet je dus in de zelfde stand terugplaatsen...de andere 3 stangen zijn niet verstelbaar.

of zie ik het fout ?
gr Ron

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 15, 2018 7:29 pm
door Hakie
Dit is een eBay link van hetzelfde gereedschap, Bart.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Traggelenk-Hint ... SwYHxWF4V7

Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 15, 2018 7:44 pm
door Hakie
Bij die set van Lemforder zitten bouten met torx kop. Daar heb je een "korte" bit voor nodig. Met een gewone ratel kom je er aan de auto niet bij. Een platte ratel of zoiets als op de foto (ringratel) lukt het wel. Het rubber ringetje voorkomt dat het bitje eruit valt.
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Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 16, 2018 2:16 pm
door Bart_vg

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 16, 2018 2:20 pm
door Bart_vg

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 16, 2018 6:30 pm
door Rojo124
fuseegewricht op 'rijhoogte ????

Hoe bedoel je dat precies Bart ?....de auto gaat toch gewoon op de hefbrug ...wielen er af en de/monteren die handel ?
of hangen de wielnaven dan te laag en moet ik ze eerst horizontaal zetten...bedoel je dat ?

gr Ron

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 16, 2018 7:22 pm
door Bart_vg
als je wielen er af zijn zakt het fuseegewricht met wielnaven doordat de veer geen gewicht meer te dragen heeft. (vandaar ook dat je wiel zakt wanneer je de wagen opkrikt).
om je rubbers in de stangen optimaal te gebruiken en niet onnodig te belasten moet je ze dus monteren op normale rijhoogte (is net iets lager dan horizontaal geloof ik).
Je kan het aanzien als een torsend moment in de rubber wanneer je wiel op en neer beweegt. Wanneer de wagen gewoon stil staat mag er logischerwijze ook geen torsiekracht meer in het rubber zitten.

Optie is op alle bouten er in te steken en moeren gewoon op draaien met de hand. Dan zet je de wagen met de 4 wielen op blokken en zo kan je de bouten aandraaien op moment. (die blokken onder de wielen dienen enkel om er zelf nog onder te kunnen als je geen brug hebt :lol: )

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 16, 2018 7:35 pm
door Rojo124
Ja maar de veren gaan ook los hoor...dan staat er toch geen spanning meer op ?
zo zag ik de monteur het vorige keer ook doen bij een andere W124 ...dus dat is niet goed ?

in alle manuals wordt gesproken dat tijdens het monteren de achteras horizontaal blijft.
gr Ron

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 18, 2018 3:44 pm
door Bart_vg
Als je de stangen 1 voor 1 gaat vervangen zal je inderdaad geen probleem hebben hiermee, maar als je het geheel demonteert moet je er wel op letten.
Zelf haal ik er direct alles onderuit, kan ik het subframe zelf mooi opkuisen en een extra laklaag op aanbrengen + nieuwe rubbers. Dusja, dan zit je met een puzzel aan losse stukjes en moet je zeker rekening houden met de hoogte bij montage :)

Re: Reparatieset- wielophanging

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 18, 2018 6:51 pm
door Rojo124
Oke bedankt Bart
ik denk zelf auto op de brug ..wielen eraf....veren er onderuit...en dan de as horizontaal houden met versnellingsbakkrik
en dan 1 voor1 vervangen .

gr Ron