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Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: vr jun 28, 2019 4:41 pm
door koun
Hallo allemaal,

Ik heb bij mijn e320coupe de aircopomp moeten vervangen omdat deze lekte, direct de droger mee vervangen.

Nadat ik hem heb laten vullen wil de pomp niet aanspringen, zodra ik de eco modus uitzet draait de pomp 1seconde en stopt er dan weer mee. Moet auto helemaal uitzetten dan starten met eco modus aan en zodra je het uitzet draait hij weer 1seconde

Ben ermee naar de garage geweest en hun hebben vanalles doorgemeten en komen er niet uit.

Verder is het airco/kickdown relais al vervangen deze was volgens de garage doorgebrand, volgens de garage zijn de 2 sensoren op de droger in orde.

Wie heeft hier verstand van en zou mij graag willen helpen dit op te lossen

Gr Koun

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: ma jul 01, 2019 11:57 pm
door Merida
Ik zou zeggen; handmatig aansturen (stekker eraf, gewoon zelf met een plusje aan komen) en met een manometersetje kijken wat de drukken doen.
Wel opletten dat ze niet gelijk de pan uit stijgen; dan weer los.
Kan zijn dat de pressostaat hem uitschakelt namelijk.

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: di jul 02, 2019 8:52 pm
door Arpad
Ik zou het in de druksensoren (minimale en maximale druk) en de drukkken zelf zoeken.
Wellicht heb je iets aan dit document.
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Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: do jul 04, 2019 2:07 pm
door koun
Bedankt allemaal voor de reacties

De druksensoren zijn niet het probleem, kheb ze doorverbonden gehad bij de sensor met de zwarte stekkers deed hij niks

En bij die rode sensor hetzelfde enige wat gebeurd was dat de 2 elektrische fans aangingen.

Mijn garage denkt dat het miss in de motorcomputer of die klimatronic computer.

Het grote relais achter de accu is al nieuw.

Heb echt geen idee meer waar het kan zitten word er lichtelijk gek van.

Gr Koun

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: do jul 04, 2019 3:25 pm
door pierro
Komt de electromagnetische koppeling op je compressor wel in, .... ook dit kan je handmatig bedienen door 12V op de spoel te zetten en kijk dan of die aantrekt/koppelt.

Ook kan je de airco-foutcodes uitlezen op de 8 polige diagnostic connectorbox in de accuruimte, zit tegen de wand gemonteerd boven het duoventiel van de kachelverwarmingsslangen.

Ben er vorig jaar ook mee bezig geweest en was alleenmaar te lage hoeveelheid gas in het systeem (moet ongeveer 1100gram gas in gaan).
Succes

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: do jul 04, 2019 3:31 pm
door pierro
Indien nodig is hier een handig step by step document for reparatie van de airco...

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en nog een schema van het geheel...

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Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: vr jul 05, 2019 11:20 am
door Shostakovich124
Heeft de airco nog weer een tijd(je) normaal gewerkt nadat dat doorgebrande aircorelais is vervangen?
En heb je zelf gezien dat de magneetkoppeling op de pomp, na inschakelen van de airco, daadwerkelijk 1 SEC.
heeft gekoppeld of concludeer je dat omdat het rode ledje op de knop na 1 SEC. weer gaat branden?

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: za jul 06, 2019 9:06 am
door koun
Het relais is vervangen nadat hij het al nietmeer deed , volgens de airco boer waar ik hem gevuld had was het relais kapot.

Wat betreft het 1seconde lopen heb ik met eige ogen gezien misschien ist iets minder als 1seconde maar zeker niet meer

Weet iemand hoe ik hem kan uitlezen en heeft iemand toevalig een storingcode overzicht?

Gr Koun

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: za jul 06, 2019 11:24 am
door pierro
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Voila het document om de DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Codes) uit te lezen en te interpreteren.
Wel even een tester maken van een LEDje met drukknopje om een 12 volt startpuls te geven en het aantal pulsen te zien via de LED.
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Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: za jul 06, 2019 11:34 am
door pierro
Sorry, vergat het schema van een Flash Coder Reader , makkelijk zelf te maken...

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Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: za jul 06, 2019 11:35 am
door Shostakovich124

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: za jul 06, 2019 5:24 pm
door koun
Dus als ik het goed begrijp is het waarschijnlijk een toerental sensor?

Want het relais N6 is nieuw lijkt me niet dat dat de boosdoener is.

Gr Koun

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: zo jul 07, 2019 12:50 pm
door Shostakovich124
De toerentalsensor op de pomp lijkt me niet stuk. Als deze wel stuk zou zijn, komt er geen toerentalsignaal van de
pomp binnen op het relais. Dat signaal is een voorwaarde om de pomp te schakelen en die wordt geschakeld.

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: ma jul 08, 2019 6:14 am
door JantjeV8
Of een versleten magneetkoppeling, die kan (gaan) slippen.

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: vr jul 12, 2019 5:29 pm
door koun
Zoals het er nu naar uitziet is er zowiezo teveel olie in het systeem aanwezig, kan voorlopig niet verder systeem moet gespoeld worden en dan aangevult met olie.

Koste hiervoor zijn belachelijk gaat over 800euro minimaal dus voorlopig weer geen airco.

Toch bedankt allemaal voor de tips denk dat ik hier in de winter misschien weer mee verder ga.

Gr Koun

Re: Aircopomp wil niet

BerichtGeplaatst: za jul 13, 2019 1:00 am
door w126560td
Ik zou gewoon de airco pomp losmaken. Even leeg maken via de achterkant. Vervolgens flesje airco olie kopen goede hoeveelheid erin. Systeem handmatig doorverbinden met zekering en druksensors meenemen en externe knopje plaatsen. vervolgens gas erin en rijden. Ik rijd al meer dan 4 jaar rond met eigen gemaakte schema voor mijn airco. werkt prima. Ergens op het W126 forum moet ook een tekenening staan van how to.