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verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: wo aug 21, 2019 2:40 pm
door Rob Hackert
Mijn 200D van 1986 heeft een jaartje geschorst gestaan buiten. Nu ik m weer gebruik blijft de verwarming warm. Nu heb ik eerst een aantal berichten op het forum onderzocht over dit onderwerp en ben daarna aan de slag gegaan om te proberen dit probleem op te lossen. maar tot nu toe zonder resultaat helaas...

Ik ben begonnen om met het contact aan en de draaiwieltjes op koud te meten of er op de stekker van de duoventielen tussen het middelste contact en de twee buitenste contacten 12 volt te meten was. Helaas geen spanning dus ik ging er van uit dat het bedieningspaneel van de verwarming defect zou zijn.

Nu heb ik ook nog een 230E waarvan ik eerst heb gecontroleerd of deze met de wieltjes op koud ook koude lucht gaf op de roosters links en rechts. Dat was oké en ook met de wieltjes op rood kwam er warme lucht uit de beide roosters. Dus dat verwarmingspaneel deed het goed.

Toen heb ik dat paneel in mijn 200D geplaatst en hoopte dat het probleem opgelost was, maar helaas bleef in mijn 200D warme lucht komen met de wieltjes op koud, en ik heb ook geen spanning kunnen meten op de stekker van de duoventielen.

Daarna heb ik voor alle zekerheid het eerdere verwarmingspaneel van mijn 200D nog gemonteerd in mijn 230E en toen heb ik links en rechts bij wieltjes op koud wel 12 volt kunnen meten op de stekker van de duoventielen.

Dus de beide kachelpanelen doen het correct is mijn conclusie en zit het elektrisch probleem van de warme verwarming van mijn 200D niet in het kachelpaneel ......

Iemand een idee waar ik het electrisch probleem van de verwarming van mijn 200D nog moet zoeken?????

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: wo aug 21, 2019 5:52 pm
door Rob Hackert
Dat heb ik nog niet vermeld, maar ik heb mijn zekeringen ingespoten met contactspray KONTAKT 60 en ze daarna allemaal weer enkele keren omgedraaid....

Weet jij welke zekering voor de verwarming dient Richard?

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do aug 22, 2019 10:07 am
door Shostakovich124
In de deksel van de zekeringskast zit een kaartje met de indeling van de zekeringen, daar staat wel welke....

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do aug 22, 2019 1:13 pm
door JantjeV8
En als je 12V rechtstreeks op het ventiel zet, merk je ook wel of hij open/dicht gaat of niet.

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do aug 22, 2019 2:08 pm
door Rob Hackert
Ja dat is wel zo, maar bij de wieltjes op koud en contact aan meet ik geen 12 Volt op de stekker van de duoventielen en daarom kunnen de ventielen ook niet sluiten en blijft de verwarming warm. Het is dus een elektrisch probleem dat overigens niet wordt veroorzaakt door een defect kachelpaneel want dat heb ik al uitgewisseld door een exemplaar uit een andere W124 dat perfect werkte....

Ik ga nog eens proberen om zekering 7 te vervangen door een nieuw exemplaar nadat ik de zekeringshouder netjes heb schoon gemaakt.

Jullie horen nog hoe dit afloopt en alvast bedankt voor alle meedenkers....

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do aug 22, 2019 4:28 pm
door Rob Hackert
Een gammele zekering bleek de boosdoener!!!!!!!!! Ik heb zekering 7 vervangen door een nieuw exemplaar en de verwarming is weer perfect werkend!!!!!

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do aug 22, 2019 4:37 pm
door Rob Hackert
Bij verwarming altijd warm het volgende controleren:

Zet contact aan en wieltjes koud (blauw), en controleer of er op de stekker van de duoventielen 12V staat op het middelste contact en de twee buitenste contacten voor links en rechts.

Staat daar geen 12V op dan is zekering 7 defect en als dat niet zo is dan is het verwarmingspaneel defect.

Staat er wel 12V op dan zijn de duoventielen defect want dan worden ze wel elektrisch aangestuurd om dicht te gaan.

Ik ben reuze blij dat mijn 200D weer helemaal perfect is en ik hoop hiermee weer een steentje bij te dragen aan de W124 club.

Dank voor alle meedenkers!!!!!

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: vr aug 23, 2019 12:20 pm
door Shostakovich124

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: vr aug 23, 2019 12:48 pm
door Rob Hackert
Bedankt voor deze aanvulling Geert! De achteruitrijlampen zitten inderdaad op dezelfde zekering 7 dus ook een goede indicatie wat er elektrisch mis is....

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: wo nov 20, 2019 8:01 pm
door fronteradriver
Mijn 200D heeft er ook last van. Plots werd het deze namiddag heel warm in de auto. Bij de schakelaars op koud bleef er warme lucht uit de roosters komen...

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 21, 2019 10:05 am
door Ian
Bij mijn 230TE heb ik het probleem dat er enkel links warme (of koude) lucht is, maar rechts enkel koude lucht. Heb hier al even over gegoogled zonder veel resultaat. Enig idee wat het probleem zou kunnen zijn dat de verwarming maar aan 1 kant werkt?

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 21, 2019 11:05 am
door Rob Hackert

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 21, 2019 11:27 am
door Rob Hackert

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 22, 2019 7:05 am
door fronteradriver

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 22, 2019 10:22 am
door Rob Hackert
Op zekering 7 zitten meer gebruikers dan alleen verwarming, kan zijn dat die de zekering laten ploffen....

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 22, 2019 10:45 am
door BobKoppert
Ik heb met mijn 200D precies het omgekeerde, de verwarming wordt niet echt warm en beide draaischijven voor de temperatuur zijn aan/uit schakelaars geworden, of koud of lauwwarm. Ik vermoed zelf dat het duoventiel blijft hangen, maar heb nog geen tijd gehad om hiermee aan de slag te gaan.

Met mijn 300E had ik een soortgelijk probleem, maar als ik daarbij een dot gas gaf werd het meestal wel warm in de auto. Gasgeven met een 200D heeft echter geen/minder effect :laugh:

Als iemand nog een idee heeft hoor ik het graag.

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 22, 2019 11:02 am
door Rob Hackert
komt je koelsysteem wel op normale temperatuur? Als dat niet zo is blijft je termostaat volledig geopend en wordt je verwarming niet voldoende warm.

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BerichtGeplaatst: di nov 26, 2019 11:03 am
door fronteradriver

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: di nov 26, 2019 4:22 pm
door Rob Hackert
kan zijn dat de aanjager teveel stroom trekt omdat ie teveel mechanische weerstand heeft tijdens het draaien....versleten lagers misschien?

Re: verwarming blijft warm

BerichtGeplaatst: di nov 26, 2019 11:00 pm
door fronteradriver
zou kunnen...ik ga dat eens bekijken als ik de ruitenwisser een onderhoudsbeurt geef....