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Toerenteller werkt soms (niet)

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 26, 2020 5:52 pm
door Pansj
Hallo,

Ik heb een probleem met m'n toerenteller. Soms werkt hij een hele rit perfect, maar meestal niet. Hij valt niet uit tijdens het rijden. Het is een 250D uit 1992.

-De teller zelf werkt volgens mij, want soms werkt hij feilloos.
-De sensor op het vliegwiel heb ik eruit gehad en ziet er goed uit (voor zover je er iets kan aan zien), en zit goed vast. Heb eraan zitten friemelen terwijl de motor draaide en op geen enkel moment gaf de toerenteller iets aan.
-Het dashbord eruit gehad en aan alle fiches bewogen maar ook niets te zien.
-10A zekering op het overspanningsrelais is nog goed.

Op de +12V fiche achterop de toerenteller zit 12V, de klok werkt.
Op de andere fiche zit een fiche met een geel-groene en een rood-paarse draad erin, moet hierop een AC spanning gemeten worden bij stationaire motor? En zoja, iemand een idee hoeveel ongeveer?

Ikzelf denk eerder aan een slecht contact aangezien die soms werkt. Heb de kabel van de sensor proberen volgen maar die loopt ergens over de startmotor en daarna verdwijnt die uit het zicht. Is deze kabel rechtstreeks van de sensor naar de toerenteller, of zit hier nog ergens iets tussen?

Op m'n vorige zat geen toerenteller, nooit problemen mee gehad :D

Re: Toerenteller werkt soms (niet)

BerichtGeplaatst: do nov 26, 2020 8:37 pm
door John.M
Zit 'm in de regel in de toerenteller zelf. Het circuit staat op zichzelf.
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De eerste die ik inbouwde deed het ook niet goed, later trof ik een goeie die werkt nog steeds perfect.






Re: Toerenteller werkt soms (niet)

BerichtGeplaatst: za nov 28, 2020 11:25 am
door Shostakovich124
Lijkt erop dat toch je overspanningsrelais stuk is.
Met een nieuwe zal je probleem, 99,9% zeker, opgelost zijn.

Re: Toerenteller werkt soms (niet)

BerichtGeplaatst: za nov 28, 2020 6:11 pm
door Pansj
Johnny, ik had je posts al gelezen maar ik wou graag zeker zijn voor ik onderdelen ga halen.
Vandaag alles nog eens gecheckt maar omdat m'n ABS lampje niet brandde dacht ik niet meteen aan het relais. Nog eens dashbord eruit gehaald en het ABS lampje was eruit gehaald (door vorige eigenaar om door de keuring te raken?). Relais eruit gehaald en zelf eens 12V op gezet en doet niets meer. Spanning komt wel toe in de fiches dus dat relais is effectief kapot.

Maandag eens een ander halen en daarna meet ik wel eens door wat voor signaal op de toerenteller toekomt, dan plaats ik het hier nog wel.

Bedankt alletwee!

Re: Toerenteller werkt soms (niet)

BerichtGeplaatst: za dec 12, 2020 2:52 pm
door Pansj
Heb een weekje moeten wachten op het nieuwe relais. Het originele was er een met 7 polen, 1 zekering en heb nu een met 9 polen, 2 zekeringen opgestuurd gekregen maar dit werkt ook.

Gemeten waarden (misschien nuttig voor anderen die hier problemen mee hebben):

Bij stationair, 6-700rpm:
Tussen massa en groene draad: 6.4V AC
Tussen massa en paarse draad: 29.6V AC

Bij verhogen toerental zakt de spanning tussen massa en groen.
Bij verhogen toerental blijft de spanning tussen massa en paar gelijk.