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Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 22, 2015 8:03 pm
door Rick K
Ze hebben mij een A124 te koop aangeboden. De cabrio is van 1991 en heeft het nieuwe type neus. No big deal so far. Andere motorkap en koplampen en eventueel achterlichten en achter klep en hij is weer origineel.
Maar.... Het is een 220CE en geen 230CE. Voor zover ik weet zijn er tot augustus 1993 alleen maar modellen gemaakt met een 230 en 300 motor. Nu is mij verteld dat er voor de Belgische markt des tijds de cilinderinhoud kleiner is gemaakt.

Ikzelf ben van mening dat er iets niet klopt. Of het is een later model. Of hij is compleet omgebouwd. Of de cijfertjes op het plaatje onder de motorkap kloppen niet. Kan iemand mij duidelijkheid geven?

Re: Even een vraagje:

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 22, 2015 9:11 pm
door Sebastiaancocoon
De 220 motoren zijn al iets eerder dan 93 gemaakt dacht ik. Maar de combinatie van alle mopf 2 uiterlijkheden en dan die motor is wel even een puntje van aandacht.


Even alle punten nakijken van waar je aan kan zien of het een 90er model betreft of een e klasse

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 22, 2015 10:40 pm
door AdamCabrio
Gebouwd in 1991? Merkwaardig verhaal. Dat zou dan een cabrio moeten zijn uit de vóór-serie.

De 220 motoren zijn gebouwd vanaf de zomer van 1992, in de sedan en in de station; in de cabrio werd deze 220 (volgens mij) pas ingebouwd in 1993 (tegelijk met de komst van de nieuwe neus). Vóór de komst van de 16-klepper 4 cylinders (de 200 en de 220) werd de cabrio slechts geleverd als 6 cylinder. De cabrio is nooit geleverd met een 230 motor.

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: ma nov 23, 2015 12:17 pm
door Bart_vg
Sluit me volledig bij bovenstaande aan. Heb zelf nog een coupe gehad uit 1992 (mopf1) met de 220 motor dus dit is mogelijk.
Echter is de cabrio tot 1993 enkel verkrijgbaar geweest als 300CE-24 variant (300CE voor USA).

mooi overzicht kan je hieronder terugvinden:

http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/i ... eihe_W_124

Of je hebt een wagen op het oog welke compleet is verbouwd, of erger nog, met 'minder origineel' papierwerk en chassisnummer. Andere mogelijkheden zie ik hier niet in

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: ma nov 23, 2015 6:59 pm
door JosMarijnissen560
Dan zal het een schade cabrio met ee n neus van een 230.
Een kennis van mij heeft dat vroeger ook eens gedaan en ook heeft er eentje. Te koop gestaan van 1987.
Dit is wel meer gebeurd en RDW nooit niets over gezegd.
Gr.jos

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: ma nov 23, 2015 7:11 pm
door Gullwing
Schade auto is nog het minst beroerd.

Bij de beschrijving van de auto gaat mijn neus overuren maken, dit geval verspreidt een onaangename geur.
Kijk maar eens naar tegenstrijdigheden in de uitvoering van de auto zoals bekleding, opties etc.
Iedere dealer kan op verzoek de wagenkaart uitdraaien, je hoeft alleen het chassisnummer van de auto op te geven.
Daarop vind je alle oorspronkelijke opties, de kleur, de soort bekleding etc.

De tegenstrijdigheden en het verhaal er omheen doen mij vermoeden dat het om een omgekatte mogelijk van diefstal afkomstige auto gaat.

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: di nov 24, 2015 2:31 am
door Marcellus
Klopt wat Paul zegt, en ben benieuwd wat de wagenkaart laat zien..

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: za nov 28, 2015 4:56 pm
door Rick K
Ik heb de beste man nog eens gesproken en hij vertelde dat het toch echt een '91-er is. De rekening van het ombouwen van de neus zit er ook nog bij. Dat allemaal geen probleem.

Maar toch zit ik er nog mee of de motor wel kan kloppen. Hier wie verteld dat tot augustus alleen maar de 300 en 300-24 werd gemaakt. Volgens de eigenaar is het de originele motor. En volgens mijn vader kan dat wel kloppen omdat er in België (bij oudere modellen W115) wel vaker andere cilinderinhouden waren. (Vanwegen emissie eisen???)

Voor mij is het dus nog niet helemaal duidelijk...

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: za nov 28, 2015 10:23 pm
door -SK-

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: za nov 28, 2015 10:47 pm
door -SK-

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: za nov 28, 2015 10:50 pm
door -SK-

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 3:37 am
door Marcellus
Ga gewoon met het chassisnummer naar de dealer of stuur het naar Kees "de Boer", die voorstelt om het voor je na te kijken... Is dat een probleem?

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 9:46 am
door Rick K
Ik zit te wachten op een mailtje van de beste man met wat foto's.
Heb de auto namelijk nog niet gezien, maar wil hem zeker gaan bekijken.
Als hij keurig alle papieren bij de auto heeft en dat het klopt, zou er eigenlijk geen probleem mogen zijn...

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 11:38 am
door -SK-

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 11:41 am
door -SK-

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 12:11 pm
door Mafkees
Plaatst de foto's hier maar, zo gauw jij ze hebt. Dan kunnen de kenners het jou precies vertellen, voor zover het nog niet duidelijk is.

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 6:15 pm
door Rick K
Ja ik zal ze plaatsen zodra ik ze heb. Hoop dat ik ook een chassisnummer heb dan.
Even afwachten dus...

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 7:31 pm
door Gullwing
Met het geld voor de auto kun je beter naar het casino gaan.
Daar heb je meer kans om het goed te besteden.

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 7:52 pm
door MB280E
Zoals de anderen al vermeld hebben, een 230CE cabrio is er nooit gebouwd door MB. Ook niet voor de Belgische mark.
Ben wel benieuwd naar de foto's.

Re: Aankoop 230CE

BerichtGeplaatst: zo nov 29, 2015 9:34 pm
door Gullwing
Het heeft weinig zin met nog meer argumenten te komen dat er met deze auto van alles mis is.
TS gelooft de verkoper op zijn woord al vertelt die man sprookjes.
Nog even opsommen: bouwjaar kan niet kloppen, een 230E motor is nooit geleverd in de A124 ook niet voor de Belgische marlt. Een 220E motor bestond nog niet in 1991.

Omgekat is zeker, van diefstal afkomstig is niet uitgesloten.
In het gunstigste geval verlies je het kenteken. met iets meer pech de hele auto.