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Opgelost/backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 30, 2012 5:03 pm
door Groove_champion
Goedenavond allen.

Gister heb ik een backfire gehad met de Mercedes net toen ik wou beginnen aan een lange rit.

Situatie: Ik naderde een kruispunt met een gang of 20km/u. Vervolgens kwam er een auto van rechts waarvoor ik iets moest remmen. De auto passeerde en ik gaf een beetje gas om weer rustig aan de dijk op te rijden. Maar vervolgens een plof uit de motor en een beetje rook (typische backfire)


Vervolgens : Auto naar achter laten rollen op een parkeerplaats. Even laten uitroken en vervolgens maar eens proberen te starten.
Even later(lees 4 uur later) nog eens op benzine proberen te starten, sloeg heel even aan maar ook gelijk weer uit. daarna was de accu leeg.

Symptomen : De auto slaat niet aan op benzine of gas! en als ik op LPG start wil hij net wel/net niet aanslaan en vervolgens weer een plof uit de motor.

Visueel: De stuwschijf zit er verder nog recht in en beweegt soepel. Ik heb echter niet het idee dat deze schijf iets meebeweegt bij het proberen te starten van de auto. (normaal zie je m dacht ik iets omlaag getrokken worden)

Onderhoud: 3000 km geleden zijn vervangen : bougies, bougiekabels,rotor,verdelerkap. motor heeft totaal 7000 probleemloze kilometers op LPG gereden.

Research: Op diverse fora en op google lees ik berichten over een Vacuümslang die naar de stappenmotor zou moeten lopen en mogelijk los zou zijn geschoten. Waar kan de desbetreffende slang aantreffen ?
Verder lees ik over een kromme stuwschijf, bij mij zit hij er nog recht in.

Controle: alle bougies vonken verder, benzine pomp draait, en het gas komt uit de mixer als ik er 12v op zet.


Ik hoop zo een duidelijke omschrijving gegeven te hebben van het probleem wat zich voort doet. Wie o wie komt met de gouden tip :lol:

Veel kan het in ieder geval niet zijn lijkt me , zolang ik maar weet naar welke onderdelen ik moet kijken 8-)

bvd :mrgreen:

Re: backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 30, 2012 6:05 pm
door Perakman
Je slang van de stappenmotor zit onder in het inlaatspruitstuk, in het midden, kan niet missen

Re: backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 30, 2012 6:07 pm
door ArnoldW124

Re: backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 30, 2012 6:53 pm
door Harm Eikelkamp
yep even alle slangetjes nalopen die aan het inlaat spruitstuk zitten. gegarandeerd prijs .

er ligt er zeker 1 af en als je pech hebt meer.

gr harm

Re: backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: vr nov 30, 2012 9:19 pm
door Groove_champion
@ Perakman en Harm Eikelkamp : Hartelijk dank voor de duidelijke omschrijving, ik ga morgen eens een kijkje nemen. houd jullie op de hoogte 8-)

@ ArnoldW124 : Nee deze zit er niet in, ik ga m na dit gebeuren wel aanschaffen :lol:

Re: backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: za dec 01, 2012 8:05 pm
door Groove_champion
nou Ik heb erg goed nieuws: de auto doet het weer als van ouds!

ben eens opzoek gegaan naar de stappenmotor, deze zat bij m'n 230E tussen het schutbord en de inlaat buis in. begonnen met het luchtfilter te verwijderen en na even zoeken had ik de stappenmotor gevonden, in eerste instantie zag ik er niet zo heel veel aan. Aangezien de bovenste slang er nog keurig netjes op zat. wel even ter controle de slang er af gehaald om te controleren op scheuren
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Maar uiteindelijk viel het kwartje dat er ook nog een slang aan de onderkant zou moeten zitten.
En na even kijken zag ik het liggen, helemaal onderin lag een slang
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Ik dacht dat het een helse klus zou zijn om die slang er weer op te krijgen, maar ik kon er goed bij met mn arm. Binnen 5 minuten zat de slang er weer op. De auto liep eindelijk weer !!

Echter deed zich wel een ander probleempje voor, als ik de auto in de D of in de R zette sloeg hij af. Dus bij enige vorm van belasting kapte de motor er mee.

Na even zoeken bedacht ik me dat de stappenmotor ook wel eens een klap gekregen zou moeten kunnen hebben. Dus even met een houten hamer een paar tikken gegeven op de stappenmotor, en ja hoor hij liep weer beter !
Daarna het zaakje even in de wd40 gezet en uiteindelijk liep het weer als van ouds !

hartelijk dank voor de bruikbare tips !

Re: backfire 230E

BerichtGeplaatst: za dec 01, 2012 8:11 pm
door Harm Eikelkamp
en weer een tevreden klant hahahaaha :lol:

mooi en nu weer lekker tuffen :lol:

gr harm