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Je sluit de benzinepomp af met een relais,voor de rest niets, je kan de draad gebruiken stroomtoevoerdraad [30 op dit relais] om je gassysteem te voeden deze is namelijk al geschakeld met een motorloopbeveiligingsysteem die bij afslag van de motor de stroom ook van je afsluiters af haalt,
De verdamper plaats je zo dat de gasslang naar het mengapparaat zo kort mogenlijk is, dit om een een zo direct mogenlijk zuigsignaal naar de 2e trap van de verdamper te verkrijgen, en rechtop !! slutgeplug naar [indien gemonteerd] naar beneden.
Wateraansluitingen middels 2 T stukken parrallel aan de kachelslangen die via de parafan je interieur in lopen.
Sucses ermee !! Erwin.

http://www.vogelsautogas.nl/portaal/

Kijk daar even kan je vast het één ander uit vogelen

Dit is de 4e keer dat ik zelf gas inbouw in een wagen. Vroeg me meer af hoe jullie de boel hebben lopen

even nog 2 vraagjes

wat voor buitenvuller moet er op als ik m in de tankklep wil verwerken? moet het een haakse zijn of een rechte ? en moet hij afschroefbaar zijn ivm afdichten?

en hoelang moet de vulslang ongeveer zijn van af die plek naar de kofferbak?

misschien moet ik de vraag anders stellen


ik wil mijn LPG vulling hier :
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heb ik dan nodig een :

haaks model
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Recht model
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afschroefbaar model (recht of haaks)
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Ik heb het rechte model en een vulslang met 90 graden bocht

tnx ! heb inmiddels alles besteld. alles is binnen op het mengstuk na.
vrijdag beginnen met inbouwen!

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nog even afmaken, en dan aan de voorkant beginnen

De achtrerkant ziet er op dit moment goed uit alleen had ik een normale haakse vuller gebruikt en geen [vyger] model denk ik, je zit nu met een koppelstuk te werken terwijl dat niet nodig is, de benzineklep sluit toch wel en je zit met een rubber ring te rotzooien die verdroogd en kan lekker enz enz, [er is ruimte zat volgens mij] !!
De beste stuurlui staan aan wal weet ik maar met 8 jaar LPG inbouw ervaring bij de rnd afdeling van een autogasinporteur in de tijd dat onze MBs nieuw afgeleverd werden [eurogas] mag ik wel een beetje meelullen [toch]
Groet Erwin.

@ erwin, daar heb ik inderdaad ook nog even overna zitten denken om te kiezen voor een vaste of een afschroefbare. ik heb voor dit model gekozen omdat ik niet zeker wist of dit bij het RDW volledig afgesloten moet zijn. zo heb ik wel eens eerder meegemaakt dat dit afkeur was omdat er geen afsluitbare dop op zat.
dus heb t voor de zekerheid maar op safe gespeelt. achja er kant altijd nog wat anders in op den duur.

Maargoed de achterkant is nu zo goed als klaar, de bekabeling ligt tot aan de motorruimte.
Nu moet de plaats komen van de keuzeschakelaar. waar kan ik deze het beste inbouwen ? ik vind het zonde om in het hout gaten te gaan maken. welke opties heb ik verder nog ?

Nu zou ik die schakelaar anders inbouwen als normaal, ik zou in jou geval kiezen voor een orginele schakelaar van nb zelf die je in het hout kan vrezen zodat het er orgineel uitziet BV van een acherin binnenlichtschakelaar en daar proberen een gasschakelaarembleem van te maken, dit houd het geheel orgineel en je hebt een injectiemotor dus heb je geen 3 standen schakelaar nodig, [2 standen is voldoende]
Ik heb dat gedaan met mijn corsa en gebruik gemaakt van een mistachterlicht schakelaar, prachtig, en ik heb het zo aangesloten dat als deze op LPG loopt het waarschuwingslampje op de schakelaar aangaat. [wil ik nog veranderen met aangaan als deze op benzine loopt]
Als je nou een relais monteerd op die schakelaar met een gaslevelmeter op de LPG tank kan je op benzine en LPG de tankinhoud op je orginele tankmeter aflezen, oei ,dat is wel heel erg mooi, die dingen zijn te krijgen maar moet je ff de weerstandswaarden vol en leeg weten van je MB en die weet ik niet uit mijn hooft !!
PS leuk dat je het zelf doet, het mijn oude vak en blijft toch altijd aan mijn kleven, hahaha.
Groet Erwin.

dat lijkt me inderdaad ook de beste oplossing die er is, een origneel knopje zien te bemachtigen.
Toen ik gas inbouwde in mn opel commodore heb ik uiteindelijk de schakeling in de orignele mistlampschakelaar gestopt.(had nog een extra schakelaar en die paste boven de originele)
maar denk dat ik het voorlopig met een opmaat gemaakt plastic beugeltje ga doen die ik op een subtiele manier onder het dash kan bevestigen zonder dat je uiteindelijk kan zien dat het er gezeten heeft.

vananvond wil ik alles zo ver af hebben dat alleen het gedeelte onder de motorkap nog gedaan hoeft te worden en de gasleiding.

om even terug te komen op de verdamper. dit is de enige plek die ik heb. Kan dit geen kwaad omdat het zo dicht bij het uitlaatspruitstuk zit? ik kan ventueel nog een hitteschild maken indien nodig
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voor de rest zit het onder de motorkap helaas bomvol

zal eens kijken of ik nog wat foto's heb van het inbouwen van gas in de commodore en in de chevrolet impala

Ja, het is een beroerde plek voor dit type auto, je gasslang word erg lang maar helaas, ik weet het niet zeker maar kijk ook ff linksvoor onder de auto of daar geen plaats is, je drooggasslang moet zo kort mogenlijk zijn, doe ook je waterslangen zo aansluiten dat het water van onder naar boven door je verdamper loopt, dit om ontluchten van het systeem te verbeteren en dus bevriezing te voorkomen, je zomer/winterstand afsluiten op de zomerstand [voor de fijnproevers extra luchtslang monteren op luchtinlaat en naar achteren richten] en de gascomponenten minimaal 10 cm van de uitlaat [spruitstuk] monteren, zo niet moet er een hitteschild gemonteerd worden, [RDW grapje]
Groet Erwin.

zo te horen zal dat dus nog een leuk klusje worden haha. Maargoed niks is onmogelijk. Alles is aangesloten in de auto qua bedrading. Het enige wat nog moet is de verdamper,mengstuk , gasleiding leggen en een heel klein beetje electronica aansluiten onder de kap.

Wat me weer bij de volgende vraag brengt: heeft de spinnekop geen kans op schade tijdens het rijden als ik de benzinepomp uitschakel? En de pomp kan ik gewoon uitschakelen op het relais door dedraad naar de pomp te verbreken?


Nog even en hij loopt op gas:D

Als er benzinedruk op het systeem staat, gaat die debietmeter erg zwaar, als de benzinedruk wegvalt gaat deze zo ligt als een veertje, Het is aan jou of jij die dobber [kjec] vast zet of niet, bij een geheel juist ingeboud LPG systeem met een goede ontsteking zal er niet veel gebeuren maar een anti bats systeem op je luchtfilter bouwen ben je toch goed bezig, tip ; geef nooit gas bij het starten !!!!, hij moet vanzelf aanslaan en dan rustig gasgeven zodat hij overschakeld op LPG.
Even een correctie op een vorig schrijven van mij, een 230E heeft die een k jectronic of een l jectronic ?, ik schrijf steeds maar volgens hoe ik het zelf zou doen bij mijn MB [260E] maar jij hebt een 230 geloof ik en ik ken het injectiesysteem daar ff niet van.
Dit is dus wel verschillend qua uitschakelen van benzinef !!
Groet Erwin.

daar zal ik me inderdaad een even in moeten verdiepen, iig heel erg bedankt voor de tips het is hier nu volop carnaval dus de werkzaamheden liggen eventjes stil. misschien wel leuk om een onderdelenlijst te posten?

Tank €55 (via marktplaats R67-01 bouwjaar 2008 komen er vast wel meer langs in deze prijsklasse geduld is een schone zaak)
Gasleiding = €28.50
T stukken 2x = € 3.40
LPG leiding beugeltjes 15x €3.75
boorparkers x15 =€3.75
buitenvuller = €23.94
vulslang 1.25 mtr = 18.05
Mengstuk = €46.00
wat ik verder nog had liggen : bedrading compleet, verdamper, enkele koelvloeistofslangen en gas slangen. metalen plaat waar ik tankbeugels van heb gemaakt etc

heb er nu een kleine 10 uur werk in zitten

zo vrijdag ga ik weer verder na een weekje rust.
dan komt de gasleiding er onder en komt de verdamper op een vaste plaats onder de motorkap. Ben nog steeds aan het proberen op welke plaatsen hij allemaal zou kunnen komen


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Als ik af ga op het schema bouw je geen geregeld systeem in, heb je daar een reden voor ?
Ik zou een lambda geregeld systeem inbouwen, stelmotortje in de drooggasslang en een aftakking op je lambdasonde en je het [bijna] altijd het juiste mengsel te pakken [goed voor het verbruik en milieu]!
Of heb je een k jec zonder lambdaregeling erop ?
Groet Erwin.

ik ben eerlijkgezegd niet echt op de hoogte van dat systeem, vandaar dat ik voor de meest simpele versie heb gekozen.
Maar het klinkt in iedergeval erg goed ! hoe werkt dit ongeveer? stuurt dat systeem de verdamper aan? en valt dat dan onder G3?
ik wil me er graag in verdiepen


vandaag de gasleiding geplaatst
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gas2.jpg (58.85 KiB) 5372 keer bekeken

en de verdamper een plek gegeven. opzich is dit een erg mooie plek. het zit redelijk in de buurt van het luchtfilter en komt zo niet zonder koelvloeistof te staan. ook mooi meegenomen is dat de afdekplaat er overheen valt dus dan issie ook veilig van het meeste vuil op de weg
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Zit je onderste waterslang niet in een knik???