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automaat probleem 200 1985

Berichtdoor carrera996 » di jul 27, 2010 9:08 pm

Mijn E200 automaat van 1985 (140.000 km) heeft het volgende probleem;

De auto trekt altijd op in de tweede versnelling, ongeacht de stand van de S / W schakelaar van de automaat. Voor de rest schakelt de automaat goed.

Enig idee wat dit kan zijn? Gaarne concrete antwoorden. "probeer eens olie te verversen" kan ik zelf ook bedenken. Naar mijn mening is het oplossen van een storing iets anders dan het telkens iets proberen en dan maar hopen dat het probleem een keer verholpen is. :)

Ik hoor graag van jullie, alvast bedankt.
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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor Bassje » di jul 27, 2010 9:35 pm

Dat de auto in de 2e versnelling optrekt hoort zo. Alleen bij (bijna) volgas of met kickdown trekt 'ie op in z'n 1.
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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor carrera996 » di jul 27, 2010 9:44 pm

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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor Bassje » di jul 27, 2010 10:30 pm

Toch is het zo, bij de nieuwere Benzen is dat inderdaad anders.
De 'E' stand zorgt voor wat vroegere schakelmomenten t.o.v. de 'S' stand.
Ook schakelt 'ie in de 'S' stand wat sneller terug.
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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor W124500E » wo jul 28, 2010 7:45 am

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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor RamaekeH » wo jul 28, 2010 1:57 pm

Als de bak in S stand staat ligt het toerental waarbij de volgende versnelling gekozen wordt duidelijk hoger.
Bovendien is de stand van het gaspedaal van invloed.
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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor SanderE38 » wo jul 28, 2010 8:28 pm

De auto rijd in z'n 2 weg zodat ie soepelder weg rijd en niet zo vaak hoeft te schakelen.
Dit is idd normaal bij de meeste oudere mercedessen.
De 1 wordt alleen gebruikt als je de kickdown gebruikt.
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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » do jul 29, 2010 8:51 am

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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor carrera996 » do jul 29, 2010 9:20 am

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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » do jul 29, 2010 12:39 pm

Ik kan het nog wel toelichten:

Mercedes heeft heel lang volgehouden dat zomin mogelijk schakelbewegingen meer comfort en meer veiligheid met zich meebrengt. Men vond dat de motoren voldoende souplesse gaven om in de 2e gang aan te rijden. Enkel de (ongeblazen) diesels lieten ze in de 1e gang aanrijden, anders kwamen ze gewoonweg niet op gang.

Vandaar dat Mercedes pas heel laat alle modellen voorzag van 5-gang versnellingsbakken. Ze hielden botweg lang die 4-bak er in.
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Re: automaat probleem E200 1985

Berichtdoor Vincent » ma aug 02, 2010 4:30 pm

Hoi,

Er is inderdaad niets mis met je automaat.
Altijd in twee wegrijden is normaal, alleen als je het gas goed intrapt start hij in 1
Het verschil in E en S stand van de automaat.
In E rijdt hij ook in 2 weg ook al trap je het gas onderin, enkel als je hem bij start meteen in de kick down trapt neemt hij de 1ste versnelling mee.
Ook schakelt de bak bij vol gas (zonder kick down) eerder naar een hogere versnelling.
Bij mijn 260 ergens tussen de 4000 en 4500 rpm.

Dus, vooral geen olie verversen, in ieder geval niet voor bovenstaande.
Maar als je niet weet wanneer het voor de laatste keer gebeurd is (olie verversen) is het iets om te overwegen.
Schone olie en filter zijn een + voor de levensduur van je bak.

Veel rijplezier.

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