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Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor MH-pcl » ma nov 14, 2011 12:49 pm

Hallo,

Ik heb net een W124 gekocht, een 250D automaat van okt.1986. Als eerste wil ik hier graag een cruisecontrol inbouwen en deze wil ik aansluiten op een originele tempomat bedieningshendel (heb ik eerder ook gedaan op mijn W123). Voordat ik van alles koop, zou ik graag het volgende willen weten:
- kan iemand mij vertellen wat voor type bedieningshendel ik nodig heb (ik heb iets gelezen over mopf1 en mopf2);
- weet iemand of mijn auto mogelijk al is uitgerust met een hallsensor op de snelheidsmeter en zo nee of hij daarmee kan worden uitgerust? Hoe kom ik aan een hallsensor? Ik heb namelijk liever geen magneetsensor op de cardanas.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Vlinder333 » ma nov 14, 2011 12:54 pm

zie de how-to over cruise-control

gr Rene
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Rob300 » ma nov 14, 2011 2:53 pm

Hall-sensor heb ik wel liggen voor je.....voor n joet zit je goed....


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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Mart » ma nov 14, 2011 5:43 pm

Hoi,
Ik heb een complete originele cruisecontrol ingebouwt, is goed te doen als je auto geen hallgever heeft: naast de aansluiting van je km-tellerkabel achter op je klok kun je dan een voorgevormd stukje plastic weghalen en de hallgever met een kruiskopboutje vastzetten.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor MH-pcl » ma nov 14, 2011 6:40 pm

Bedankt voor de info tot zover. Zodra ik de auto heb zal ik eerst voor zekerheid checken of de auto inderdaad geen hallsensor heeft. Zo niet, dan neem ik vast contact op met je, Rob!

Wat de bedieningshendel betref: kan ik ervan uitgaan dat ik model mopf1 (zeg maar het oude model) moet hebben?

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Vlinder333 » ma nov 14, 2011 6:51 pm

inderdaad mopf 1 handel.
zoals in de how-to wordt gebruikt.

alles netjes inbouwen heeft mij een dag gekost.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Gombal » ma nov 14, 2011 9:17 pm

Mopf-0 of mopf-1, mopf-2 was anders.
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Sproet » do nov 17, 2011 2:36 pm

Is een tempomat hendel voor een mopf 1 betaalbaar bij de MB dealer? Ik heb geen idee van de prijs. Of wordt dat weer een rondje Ebay?

Ik zie soms hele (complete) sets staan op Ebay, maar gezien de gevoeligheden van dit accessoire weerhoudt iets mij toch om het ongezien uit Duitsland te laten komen. Heb verder wel goede ervaringen met Ebay, maar een set kost toch rond de € 300.

Ik denk er daarom hard over een John Gold of Waeco CC aangesloten op de originele hendel.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor MH-pcl » do nov 17, 2011 4:16 pm

Ik zit te denken aan een CC van Waeco, aangesloten op een originele bedieningshendel. Dit heb ik eerder gedaan bij mijn W123. Maar misschien plaats ik ook het standaard bedieningspaneel wel, maar in de W123 vond ik dat niet mooi staan.
Ik heb toen een bedieningshendel uit de VS laten komen voor $30,-. Inderdaad, via Ebay. Op ebay.de vind je diverse bed.hendels.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor peter200 » do nov 17, 2011 6:44 pm

Mercedes only heeft ze voor de W123 gewoon op voorraad, kostte mij 20 euro destijds.

Misschien heeft ie ze ook wel liggen voor de W124.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Roy_E320 » do nov 17, 2011 10:41 pm

CC handles heb ik evt. ook nog liggen mocht iemand er nog eentje zoeken :)
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Sproet » ma nov 28, 2011 8:19 pm

Zou een bedrijf dat Waeco of John Gold inbouwt ook een originele tempomathendel kunnen plaatsen? Of is dat iets dat alleen de hobbyisten kunnen?
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Gullwing » ma nov 28, 2011 10:36 pm

Die John Gold CC heb ik ooit ingebouwd.
Het was geen succes.

Dat ding leed aan het Marco Bakker effect.
Bakker beweerde dat zijn auto op hol geslagen was door de CC toen hij een een moeder van twee kinderen dood reed.
Hij reed zover ik me kan herinneren in een Opel met originele CC tijdens dat ongeval.
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Gordi044 » di nov 29, 2011 12:20 am

Bakker had ook een heel grote fantasie !
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor Gombal » di nov 29, 2011 5:04 pm

Heb momenteel een John Gold erin, AP500 met electrische servo en memorymodule en originele MB hendel, en die regelt perfect en neemt zijdezacht over. Houdt ook de snelheid perfect stabiel, heeft wel het signaal van de hallsensor en niet van de John Gold magneetjes.
Bij het ingaan van een tunnel of eruit komen wijkt de snelheid, afhankelijk van gereden snelheid en gebruikte versnelling (handbak) nooit meer dan 3-5 km af.
Of te wel, ben er erg tevrdeden mee!
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor KlaasB » di nov 29, 2011 5:20 pm

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor MH-pcl » di jan 03, 2012 12:46 pm

Ik heb een Waeco MS50 gekocht via Conrad. Verder via Mercedes Only een originele bedieningshendel en via Rob300 een hall sensor.
Vorige week alles gemonteerd en in principe werkt alles, maar het blijkt nog niet helemaal goed te functioneren. De hall sensor geeft te veel pulsen af, de elektronica van de CC moet nog omgeschakeld worden (draadje doorknippen dat daar speciaal voor bedoeld is; krijg je als je de gebruiksaanwijzing niet leest... :oops: ). Probeer ik vanavond te herstellen, dan moet het goed zijn.
Is mooi ingebouwd zo. Ik heb het controle lampje van het Waeco-bedieningspaneel (ON-ledje) verplaatst en in de tellerbak gemonteerd, zodat duidelijk is wanneer de CC aan staat.

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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor TheWil » di jan 03, 2012 4:06 pm

Ik wil hetzelfde doen als Martin. Martin laat even weten of het werkt als het draadje doorgeknipt is...
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Re: Cruisecontrol vragen

Berichtdoor MH-pcl » wo jan 04, 2012 8:39 am

Het werkt! Vanmorgen heerlijk ontspannen op de CC naar m'n werk gereden, genieten gewoon! En natuurlijk de voldoening dat alles (toch) goed aangesloten is etc.
Hopelijk merk ik het straks ook wat in het verbruik, dat moet naar mijn idee nog wat zuiniger kunnen (ik heb een wat zware rechter voet... :laugh:). Verbruik is nu ca. 7.5l/100km ofwel 1 op 13,3.

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