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Berichtdoor Matgap38 » za aug 06, 2011 11:58 pm

Halo allemaal,

Ik zat de laatste tijd te klussen met mijn auto en ik heb gemerkt dat mijn aansteker het niet doet zowel opwarmen als stroom doorgeven bv aan een usb kabel.

Ik heb op het internet gezocht voor een schema maar heb niks kunnen vinden weet iemand welke nummer ik moet hebben van me zekering kast?

Het gaat om een Mercedes W124 200D bj 86

Mvg,

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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor pjb300d » zo aug 07, 2011 9:43 am

Hallo,

De allereerste ( nr 1 ) linksboven in de zekeringkast. Maar als die er inzit en niet kapot is, haal dan even je asbak eruit en kijk even op de achterkant of je stekker er nog opzit of nog heel is. Bij mijn 300D van 86 was de stekker verdwenen maar de draden lagen er nog wel. Na het opnieuw aansluiten van de dubbele bedrading werkte mijn verlichting in het dashboardkastje ook weer... Dus je ziet wel dat als die ook niet brand bijvoorbeeld kan het in je aanluiting zitten.

Gr Pieter.
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo aug 07, 2011 10:09 am

Zeker als je een "trek" asbak hebt kan de stekker er redelijk makkelijk afvallen, heb het zelf ook gehad dat die er steeds afviel. stekkertjes een beetje krapper gebogen en probleem opgelost.
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » zo aug 07, 2011 11:18 am

Harstikke bedankt voor jullie reactie's ik zal zo snel mogelijk gaan kijken en jullie informeren of het is gelukt.


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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » zo aug 07, 2011 12:19 pm

Halo,

Ik heb de asbak deruit gehaald maar ik kan maar 1 kabel vinden en ja het klopt hij was niet eens aangesloten zie foto's in afwachting van jullie reacties.

PS: welke draden moet ik allemaal hebben? en achter de askbak aansluiting moet je ook een koppeling hebben wat voor koppeling is dat vanaf de draden naar je asbak aangezien bij mij de koppeling blijkbaar deruit is gehaald

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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo aug 07, 2011 12:34 pm

Zo uit mijn hoofd: Bruin = aarde, je ziet op je foto ook een heleboel bruine draden lopen, zit ook een aarde punt achter de middenconsole ter hoogte van je asbak.
Blauw = plus voor de aansteker. Denk dat dat de kabel is die je op 1 van je foto's ziet, makkelijk te testen door je contact aan te zetten, er moet dan stroom op de blauwe draad staan.

Heb je ook geen verlichting in je asbak dan? (Bruin = aarde, grijs/violet = plus) En je moet natuurlijk dan een houdertje voor het steeklampje aan de zijkant van je asbak hebben, aan de kant van de aansteker.
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » zo aug 07, 2011 12:36 pm

Nee heb helemaal geen verlichting er was ook niks aangesloten hij zat gewoon los.

De bruine kabels zijn grond ja inderdaad ze zijn allemaal op 1 schroef vast gemonteerd

Maar achter de asbak heb je een aansluit punt een soort stekker toch ? dus als ik het heb begrepen moeten 2 kabels dus de blauwe plus en de bruine van aarde op die stekker en die weer in de asbak plugge?
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo aug 07, 2011 1:25 pm

Bij mij zit er netjes een stekker in T vorm welke op de achterzijde van de aansteker past.
Waar die bedrading heen loopt weet ik helaas zo uit mijn hoofd niet.
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » zo aug 07, 2011 1:30 pm

Weetje toevallig wel de kleuren dus alleen blauw(plus) en bruin(aarde) of zijn der nog meer ik heb me rot gezocht op het internet maar kan geen schema of dergelijke vinden joh :S
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo aug 07, 2011 3:38 pm

Je zou hier eens kunnen kijken of er wat tussen zit:
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » zo aug 07, 2011 4:09 pm

Ik heb wat gevonden maar ik snap er geen bal van misschien iemand die er meer verstand heeft

Ik heb wat gevonden nadat ik de middenconsole heb gedemonteerd

namelijk 4 kabels 2 x zwart/geel en 2 x bruin

Is dat de kabel die ik zoek ?

Als ik dat ga opmeten moet ik toch bij zwart/geel een spanning krijgen en bruin spreekt voor zich grond.

Kan iemand het bevestigen?
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Gombal » zo aug 07, 2011 7:03 pm

Tja, moeilijk te zeggen vanaf hier maar als ik inderdaad op het schema kijk (komt uit een Haynes werkplaatshandboek zo te zien) moet het inderdaad een zwart/gele draad zijn als voeding van je aansteker. Maar iemand zal die draad dus of doorgeknipt of voor iets anders gebruikt hebben. Het zou ook dus betekenen dat je een losse zwart/paarse draad en een losse grijze/paarse draad moet hebben ergens daarachter.
En qua stekker, je kan er natuurlijk gewoon van die platte blauwe stekkertjes opknijpen/solderen, net zo makkelijk.

Heb nog even gezocht naar mijn reserve aansteker maar kan hem zo gauw niet vinden, daar zitten nog wat stukken draad aan en zou ik de kleur kunnen zien.
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » zo aug 07, 2011 7:08 pm

Bedankt voor je reactie,

Ik wil echter alleen de sigaretten dop werkend hebben licht is niet van belang ten minste op dit moment. maar is de zwart/geel en bruine draad dan niet voldoende om de sigaretten dop werkend te krijgen ?
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Re: Welke zekering voor sigarettenaansteker

Berichtdoor Matgap38 » wo aug 10, 2011 9:04 pm

Beste mensen,

Na alles te proberen heb ik het uiteindelijk gefixt,

Het is de zwart/geel (stroom) en bruin (aarde) voor de werking van de sigarette knop.

Misschien handig voor iemand die ooit hetzelfde probleem heeft.

Topic kan op slot.
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