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230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » wo aug 24, 2022 3:43 pm

De A/C van mijn 230E met M102.982 motor heeft een interimitting fout, dus stopt de compressor er af en toe mee (electromagnetische clutch niet bekrachtigd) en zie ik ook de koelwatertemperatuur meter oplopen naar 95 graden.

Het gas van de A/C is recentelijk vernieuwd en daar verwacht ik geen probleem.
Het lijkt op een haperende temp. sensor en/of druksensor.

Om het gehele A/C circuit te kontroleren ben ik op zoek naar het schema hiervan, om gericht de verschillende componenten te kunnen testen, oa koelwater temp.sensoren, etceteras.

Wie kan mij aan dit schema helpen.
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » do aug 25, 2022 7:26 am

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welke van de 2 gekleurde sensors (rode en blauwe) bediend welke ventilator , de electromachnetische fan voor de motor en de aircon fan voor de radiator?
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » vr aug 26, 2022 3:39 pm

Is er niemand die mij uit de brand kan helpen, heb nog steeds intermiterende aircon problemen en wil middels een schema of informatie van Mercedes mij systeem kontroleren.
Het is een af fabriek aircon systeem, dus moet er zeker een officieel MB document zijn wat een en ander uit de doeken doet.
Hopelijk een dealermedewerker met toegang tot het aircon systeem van de W124 die mij iets kan sturen.
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor Maurice. » vr aug 26, 2022 5:03 pm

Je kan even naar een Benz dealer gaan die hebben daar zeker een tekening van , dan kunnen ze je daarmee helpen.
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » za aug 27, 2022 8:47 am

" intermiterende aircon "

Wat is dit Pierro?
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor Semrick » za aug 27, 2022 9:34 am

Dat is denk ik Belgisch/Frans voor dat de airco het soms wel doet en soms niet. Of in ieder geval met onderbrekingen.... :D
Overigens heb ik in mijn W123 300D dan ook een intermiterende airco. NIet te verwarren met een intimiderende airco.
Bij de 300D stopt de airco ook af en toe om na korte periode weer aan te slaan. DIt lijkt mij gewoon origineel zo te horen... :roll:
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » za aug 27, 2022 11:13 am

Laatst bijgewerkt door pierro op za aug 27, 2022 11:22 am, in totaal 2 keer bewerkt.
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » za aug 27, 2022 11:20 am

@ Richard,
Ben er onderhand ook achter dat de blauwe een NTC weerstand is die de cooling temreatuur doorgeeft aan het aircon regel system en die dan weer de electrische fan aanstuurd voor de aircon radiator die voor de motor radiator zit.

De rode is een thermische switch die de electromagnetische koppeling aanstuurd van de koelwater radiator fan.

Ik hoop nog steeds dat iemand een schema heeft van dit system, zodat ik verder kan met het foutzoeken van dit intermittent probleem
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » za aug 27, 2022 11:31 am

What goes around comes around......
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor Arpad » zo sep 04, 2022 12:23 am

Die twee sensoren zijn de hoge en lage druk sensoren voor het gas. Kan zijn dat een sensor niet helemaal juist meer is. De lage druk sensor kan je eventueel eens doorverbinden.
Verder zit er achter op de compressor en pulsgenerator. deze zorgt ervoor dat als de compressor is ingeschakeld, maar niet draait, de koppeling uitschakelt. Dit kan veroorzaakt worden doo een niet goed werkende koppeling.
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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor pierro » zo sep 04, 2022 8:06 am

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Re: 230E airconditioner probleem

Berichtdoor MB-Max » zo sep 04, 2022 11:03 am

Heb je de diagnosestekker al gebruikt (zie 83-0503)? 83-0506 is de elektrische schema.
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