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Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Andya » zo jan 15, 2023 9:46 pm

De temperatuuraanwijzer (links naast snelheidsmeter) werkt niet bij mijn W124?
die blijft gewoon onderaan staan, ook bij warme motor.
Meest waarschijnlijke is wellicht temperatuursensor defect?
Is er een manier om die uit te meten?
Ik vermoed dat de sensor wel behoorlijk vast kan zitten door oxidatie in de cylinderkop.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Maurice. » zo jan 15, 2023 11:37 pm

Heb je al gekeken of misschien niet het stekkertje van de sensor is losgegaan ?
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Dweezman » ma jan 16, 2023 5:16 pm

ik lees even mee, want dit heb ik ook.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » ma jan 16, 2023 7:25 pm

post161481.html?hilit=Temperatuursensor#p161481

Met de zoekfunctie heb ik bovenstaande topic gevonden.

Als de meter niets doet, is het waarschijnlijk dat er een draadbreuk is, mogelijk bij de stekker op de sensor.

@Dweezman
Als je het probleem ook had bij het originele meterpaneel, zit het probleem in de auto, van de sensor via de bedrading, tot aan de stekker aan het meterpaneel.
Is het gekomen na het vervangen, zal je probleem in het paneel zitten.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Dweezman » ma jan 16, 2023 7:51 pm

Goed denkwerk: originele tempmeter deed het altijd wel.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » ma jan 16, 2023 9:31 pm

In dat geval zou ik alleen de "nieuwe" behuizing gebruiken, en daarin de oude meters plaatsen.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Maurice. » ma jan 16, 2023 10:38 pm

Heb even de tekening opgezocht van de cluster stekker. Nr 2 is de groene draad die naar de koelvloeistof temperatuursensor gaat, hier kom je bij door de teller unit los te halen mocht dit nodig zijn.
ik ga even uit hoe het bij mijn 230E zit met 1 pins sensor
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » di jan 17, 2023 12:53 am

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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Andya » di feb 28, 2023 9:31 pm

De stekker zit nog op de sensor.
Had ook de ohmse weerstand eens gemeten op de sensor t.o.v. massa en was iets van 2K bij koude motor.
Als er een kabelonderbreking zou zijn, waar zijn de punten waar ik zou kunnen meten?
Ik zie dat de kabel in de rail van de voorgloeileidingen gaat, maar het is wat onduidelijk waar die dan terug naar buiten komt. Het enige punt dat ik misschien zie is een kleine vierkantige fiche op het linker binnenspatbord.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

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Hier de weerstandsgrafiek t.o.v. de temperatuur van de sensor.
De weerstand van 2000 ohm bij koude motor in deze tijd lijkt mij te laag.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor pierro » wo maart 01, 2023 8:54 am

Volgens de grafiek is 2000 Ohm (2K) correct bij 20 graden, dus koude motor.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor RD500sec » wo maart 01, 2023 9:55 am

Mogelijk is het in Frankrijk nu 20 graden, hier in het noorden is de buitentemperatuur rond het vriespunt in de ochtend, en een graad of 10 in de middag....
Vandaar dat ik aangeef dat in deze tijd de weerstand naar mijn idee niet correct is.
Bovendien ligt het snijpunt 20 graden>2000 ohm buiten de grafiek, ik lees bij 2000 ohm rond de 23 graden af.

Maar het is zinvol om de weerstand niet alleen koud te meten, maar ook na 5, 10, 20 en 30 minuten rijden.
Dan is duidelijk of de sensor zijn werk doet.
Kijk dan ook gelijk of de stekker die op de sensor hoort, ook nog goed aan de kabel gesoldeerd zit.
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor pierro » wo maart 01, 2023 10:05 am

Richard, helemaal mee eens
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Re: Temperatuuraanwijzer werkt niet

Berichtdoor Andya » di maart 07, 2023 5:54 pm

Wat betreft onderbrekingen in de kabel, waar zitten er na de sensor nog fiches waar je zou kunnen meten?
Ik heb de kabel proberen te volgen, maar die gaat eerst in de rail van de voorgloei en daarna is het moeilijk uit te maken waar hij precies naar toe gaat.
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